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Finland, Home of the $103,000 Speeding Ticket: Could such a system work in the U.S.?
The Atlantic ^ | 03/13/2015 | Joe Pinsker

Posted on 03/13/2015 7:13:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/13/2015 7:13:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Oh ya....an ability to pay economy.....

Is that Fascist or Communist?


2 posted on 03/13/2015 7:14:47 AM PDT by G Larry (Our culture is caving to every whiney 3 year old in the room.)
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Of course if the fine is based on income, the local police will have access to your tax returns.

How’s that gonna work out here?


3 posted on 03/13/2015 7:15:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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Don’t know if it would work - but I know The Atlantic would LOVE to try


4 posted on 03/13/2015 7:16:43 AM PDT by PGR88
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Well this would put an end to all of those rich people committing armed robbery and the poor people would still be protected since they would not have to pay any restitution with no income to speak of.


5 posted on 03/13/2015 7:18:50 AM PDT by mikesmad
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Let’s try it as an experiment in the San Francisco area first. I’d love to see how the libs love big government trying to make things even fairer.


6 posted on 03/13/2015 7:19:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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If I’m low income and get caught speeding do I get an Earned Speeding Credit where the cop has to pay me?


7 posted on 03/13/2015 7:22:00 AM PDT by LivingNet
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RE: If I’m low income and get caught speeding do I get an Earned Speeding Credit where the cop has to pay me?

Come, come, just because Justice Roberts did it, does not mean we should confuse a penalty with a tax :)


8 posted on 03/13/2015 7:23:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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I think we should skip all the intermediate steps and go to the final step.

Every expense should be calculated this way - food, fuel, clothing, phones, movies etc. It’s only fair.

What could possibly go wrong?


9 posted on 03/13/2015 7:23:50 AM PDT by nh1 (Live Free or Die - not anymore)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s apply this to grocery stores. Harry Reid the millionaire pays $20 for a loaf of bread and I pay $0.20, based on income.


10 posted on 03/13/2015 7:23:59 AM PDT by DBrow
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From each according to their ability. To each according to their needs.
- Karl Marx

It would not surprise me at all if this became policy in Obama’s “America”.


11 posted on 03/13/2015 7:26:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Congress is exempt.


12 posted on 03/13/2015 7:30:29 AM PDT by mikesmad
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Wow, speed traps in Finland sure do pay... the state.

I suppose this kind of system does solve one problem of the rich and famous; yes, they do know who you are.


13 posted on 03/13/2015 7:32:05 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Because its about safety.


14 posted on 03/13/2015 7:33:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I’ve considered this, and the justice of uniform fines independent of income is not so clear.

A fine is not a price, but a punishment. Imprisonment, assuming it does not result in job loss, deprives the person being punished of a certain number of days of income, as well as their liberty for those days. If a fine is seen as a gentle analogue of imprisonment in which the person is deprived only of a certain number of days of income without the accompanying loss of liberty, fine amounts based on income are perfectly sensible without any leveling impulse or leftist notion of “social justice” being invoked.

Of course, were such a system implemented here by any locality or any of the several states, income would need to include the value of government transfer payments and other social benefits, not just taxable income.


15 posted on 03/13/2015 7:38:03 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Of course if the fine is based on income, the local police will have access to your tax returns.
How’s that gonna work out here?

Will they include EBT income, political donations from foreigners seeking influence, drug profits and federal subsidies?


16 posted on 03/13/2015 7:45:20 AM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile in Ferguson, it’s traffic ticket amnesty.


17 posted on 03/13/2015 7:54:34 AM PDT by Fido969
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No equal-protection for the rich!

To each according to his needs, from each according to his bank account.

18 posted on 03/13/2015 7:58:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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While I dont agree with the system implemented here, there is something to think about.


19 posted on 03/13/2015 8:03:41 AM PDT by Paradox (and now here we are....)
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...and if you’re NOT a “minority” = jack up that fine some more!

Oh yeah, I can see it coming.


20 posted on 03/13/2015 8:22:54 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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