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Why bother with a $15 minimum wage? [ad absurdum]
Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/13/2015 11:11:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Let's just get it over with and go for a guaranteed income for all. If you work and earn less than the guaranteed income, the government will pay you the difference. If you don't work, the government will pay you the guaranteed amount anyway. After all, a living wage is a human right. As is healthcare. The government should provide it. As is housing. Food. Clothing. Cell phones. Internet. Transportation. Vacations.

But we must all pay our fair share.

Those earning less than the guaranteed income will receive a check from the IRS. Those earning more than the guarantee up to, say $100,000 will pay a 50% tax. Earnings over $100,000 to $250,000 will pay a 75% tax and anything over $250,000 pays 90% tax. Fair is fair and there should be limits on how much wealth a person should be allowed to accumulate. You do not earn your income on your own. Your income is earned on the backs of the poor and disadvantaged/underprivileged and it's our responsibility to provide for them.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial
KEYWORDS: culturalmarxism; humanrights; miltonfriedman; minimumwage; negativeincometax; obamarecession; obamataxhikes; ubi; universalbasicincome
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1 posted on 03/13/2015 11:11:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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IBTZ? :D Bring it on! Let’s get this BS over with already. I’m starting to get old...I want to be vital enough to give to the fight.


2 posted on 03/13/2015 11:13:39 AM PDT by dware (The GOP is dead. Long live Conservatism.)
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I want mine to be retroactive for 60 years!


3 posted on 03/13/2015 11:15:31 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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Exactly. Just where the heck do you draw the line? These commies know what they’re doing, though, and they won’t stop until they’ve destroyed our system.


4 posted on 03/13/2015 11:15:55 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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Hey! I thought you had asked people to LABEL their satire!

Or are some animals more equal than others, here?

;-)


5 posted on 03/13/2015 11:18:09 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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Our masters will be exempt of course from taxes and the law. Forget mere socialism or communism were going back to feudalism and the people are serfs.

Make sure that poachers are mightily punished when they take the king’s game.


6 posted on 03/13/2015 11:18:31 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jerry Brown from 1995
http://biggovernment.com/mrichmond/2010/06/10/jerry-brown-flashback-we-need-more-welfare-and-fewer-jobs/

The conventional viewpoint says we need a jobs program and we need to cut welfare. Just the opposite! We need more welfare and fewer jobs. Jobs for every American is doomed to failure because of modern automation and production. We ought to recognize it and create an income-maintenance system so every single American has the dignity and the wherewithal for shelter, basic food, and medical care. I’m talking about welfare for all. Without it, you’re going to have warfare for all. Without a universal health care like every other civilized country, without a minimum level of income, this country will explode. You can’t blame the guy at the bottom forever. At some point there’s a reaction and we’ll see that the real criminals are those calling the tune, making the rules, and walking to the bank. We have the money, we have the brain power. The United States now has the highest measured wealth of any nation ever in the history of the world. We could rebuild our cities, we could create the kind of buying power and community well-being that will provide for peace. The guaranteed income is one way.

Another way is to have always the availability of work in a nonprofit, in community service. A third is to start giving people training to develop skills where they can be self-supporting. You could come up with a cash supplement. Even conservatives have suggested a negative income tax to cut out the bureaucracy. If we were smart, we’d get rid of welfare and give people a family assistance like they do in Europe…

The problem isn’t even a problem. Automation and technology would be a great boon if it were creative, if there were more leisure, more opportunity to engage in raising a family, providing guidance to the young, all the stuff we say we need. America will work if we’re all in it together. It’ll work when there’s a shared sense of destiny. It can be done! It’s all there! What isn’t there is the leadership to create the kind of social network, the safety net, the distribution that would truly create a just and equal society…

We have to restore power to the family, to the neighborhood, and the community with a non-market principle, a principle of equality, of charity, of let’s-take-care-of-one-another. That’s the creative challenge. First, expose relentlessly the big lie that comes over the tube every night-that if you just go out and find that job, and work harder, it’ll all be fine. It won’t! There’s not enough work to go around and a lot of the pay is not fair. Unless you totally yank up that system and create a better one, unless the spirit changes, unless the heart opens, unless we confront power with the truth of our own unarmed but absolute fearless truth, we’re not going to overcome it. Evil is too embedded to be overcome by anything other than a spiritual challenge.


7 posted on 03/13/2015 11:20:46 AM PDT by Haddit (Minimalists Al Gore and Al Qaeda)
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LOL. Workin’ folks see the absurdity in that, but those who live off the gubmint don’t think it’s absurd at all !

Many will be fine with that idea, as long as the tax-exempt foundation and capital gains remains in the tax code, and the rates from time to time can be quietly reduced, so income can be declared, then they can be raised again later.

To that, the gubmint supportees will say “fine, whatever”.

I’m just trying to point out that the people who are behind the push for higher taxes - who engineer the changes they will lobby for in the tax code - get the po’ folk to vote in higher taxes on the workin’ folk by throwing the po’ folk some gubmint free money.

Been goin’ on for thousands of years.


8 posted on 03/13/2015 11:22:22 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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9 posted on 03/13/2015 11:24:03 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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I’ve heard of this kind of plan somewhere before...


10 posted on 03/13/2015 11:24:18 AM PDT by Resettozero
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I usually respond to the minimum wage agitators with two points:

1. Why not make the MW $100 an hour? If it is true like they say that the MW has no negative impact on the economy then why not make it $100 an hour and end poverty once and for all?

2. I oppose the minimum wage because the government is violating my right to sell my labor for $5 an hour if I want to. What’s it to them if I want to work for $5 an hour?


11 posted on 03/13/2015 11:25:29 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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I just want my pony.


12 posted on 03/13/2015 11:26:35 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: WayneS

What satire? We’re talking human rights here.

And while we’re talking human rights, the number one guaranteed human right is the right for women to abort their unwanted babies, either unborn or up to one year (three years in certain cases). The second most important human right is the right for a person to marry the one (or more) that he/she loves, regardless of sex, relationship or species. And the third most important right is the right NOT to be offended by those believing in the Judeo-Christian God so all such followers should just shut the hell up and sit quietly in the back of the bus.


13 posted on 03/13/2015 11:29:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Just had your taxes done, did ya, LOL!
14 posted on 03/13/2015 11:31:02 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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Those earning more than the guarantee up to, say $100,000 will pay a 50% tax.

I see a flaw in your plan right there. Not enough tax revenue will be generated. Plus, some folks will still end up with more money than others.

Better: Those earning more than the guarantee will pay a 100% tax on the excess. After all, fair is fair.

15 posted on 03/13/2015 11:31:34 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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There are some good reasons for a 15 dollar minimum wage. First it would be a good pay back for the country clubbers and rich leftists who are flooding this country with illegal undocumented Democrats. Serve them right. Second of all these same undocumented Democrats probably would not find jobs and with fewer jobs the jobs would be given to people who are really worth 15 dollars an hour (and of course would speak English).


16 posted on 03/13/2015 11:32:27 AM PDT by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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To: TADSLOS


17 posted on 03/13/2015 11:32:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: The Cajun

No. Just had my nails done.


18 posted on 03/13/2015 11:34:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Who are you and what did you do with Jim?


19 posted on 03/13/2015 11:34:16 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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According to Ayn Rand ...

"the four keystones of capitalism are: metaphysically, the requirements of man's nature and survival - epistemologically, reason - ethically, individual rights - politically, freedom."

20 posted on 03/13/2015 11:34:32 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (http://sunsetridgemsbiology.wikispaces.com/file/view/Darwins+Ghost.pdf)
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