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Obama refuses to renew 40-year-old emergency oil supply pact with Israel
Pamela Geller ^ | 3/15/15

Posted on 03/16/2015 5:31:14 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: traderrob6

Hmm....I’d have to ask Tom Cotton. The Congress ratifies treaties but I don’t think it can initiate them.

It passes agreements - I guess it could initiate those but the President could veto. It would take 2/3 of both houses to override, no?


61 posted on 03/16/2015 8:07:05 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Nachum
Doesn't surprise me at all. Obama and his disciples, including self hating Jews hate Israel and want to see her destroyed.
62 posted on 03/16/2015 8:12:31 PM PDT by sport
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To: Pox

“If the bulk of ME countries decide to boycott Israel in a time of all out war, where does Israel turn for a vital resource?”

They go to the IPE and buy oil futures like everyone else.

The structure of oil market has changed over the last 40 years and the current structure would make it extremely difficult for an oil producing country to pull off of its oil off the market or placing an embargo on Israel.


63 posted on 03/16/2015 8:14:29 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Nachum

I have had to rethink what it means to be a patriot lately. America is in the process of switching sides.


64 posted on 03/16/2015 8:15:21 PM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Nachum

I guess they need to get crackin’ :

http://world.time.com/2013/04/30/can-israel-become-as-oil-rich-as-saudi-arabia/

Egypt’s already planning to get its natural gas from Israel.


65 posted on 03/16/2015 8:18:42 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Nachum

I think this is a big mistake.


66 posted on 03/16/2015 8:33:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Oliviaforever
You seem to be under the belief that “normal” circumstances will prevail in regional and global markets under an all out offensive against Israel by her hostile neighbors. I am under no such illusion and the primary point behind our agreement was to help insure the survival of Israel when she was attacked like she was in previous decades (historical precedences are quite clear on the rationale behind this agreement).

Your “assurances” are, once again, absurd, and do not subscribe to historical precedences. I certainly would not wish to pin my own survival upon irrational assurances such the like which you subscribe to.

Honestly, you're not talking to an ignorant rube who will believe the tripe you are attempting to pass off to him as “Prime Rib”, comprende?

67 posted on 03/16/2015 8:35:18 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Nachum

Talk about treasonous...


68 posted on 03/16/2015 8:39:37 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: Oliviaforever

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Oil Futures are paper investments, not real oil.

No more reliable than paper guns or paper gold.

Paper is for fools to make party hats out of.

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69 posted on 03/16/2015 8:40:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nachum

If there is one Jew alive in Israel on January 20, 2017, Obama will consider himself a very partial success as “president.”


70 posted on 03/16/2015 8:43:20 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Pox

There is nothing irrational. I did say the the agreement should stay in place.

And if it came the point that shipping routes to Israel needed protection, the US must keep the routes open.

Today, that is not an issue.


71 posted on 03/16/2015 8:52:46 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

My entire point revolves around the “agreement” that is not being renewed. It has nothing to do with “peacetime” guarantees. It has everything to do with guarantees during times of need and crisis when Israel has no other significant means of procuring Oil.

This has nothing to do with circumstances as they stand today. This has nothing to do with shipping routes that need protection. This has everything to do with the U.S. committing to supplying Israel with Oil in the event is becomes next to impossible to procure Oil through “normal” means.

Keeping the “routes” open is beside the point of this agreement. Supplying Israel with a vital volatile when it is not obtainable, due to “abnormal” circumstances, has everything to do with this agreement, and Israel can no longer depend upon the U.S. to supply them with Oil when Israel has no other method of obtaining this vital resource.

That is the issue, and “today” is not the point.


72 posted on 03/16/2015 9:19:08 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Nachum

He’s just a mean, little boy who managed to get an important job - remember the playground bully when you were growing up...he’s now in the White Hut.


73 posted on 03/16/2015 10:34:46 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Oliviaforever
Oil is typically not purchased directly from an oil producing country, but on an exchange where the source of the oil purchased is unknown and the seller has little say in who buys on the exchange.

You are missing the point.

Yes, Israel can currently buy oil on the open market and get it delivered. In peacetime. In a conflict where Muslim countries threaten to sink any oil tanker trying to make a delivery to Israel, or pull out of any exchange which dares sell to Israel, it would be different.

The agreement says the US will get oil to Israel if they need it, no matter what.

76 posted on 03/17/2015 8:25:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Nachum

That’s as unexpected as bad economic news under this White House. Who would have guessed that Obama would choose a policy that hurts Jews and Israel? Again.


77 posted on 03/17/2015 9:41:51 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Nachum

We got shale, and a new way of fracking, and natural gas. Saudi Arabia, move over.


78 posted on 03/17/2015 3:47:20 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Nachum

Just another small, tight bill Congress could send, cleanly and without amendments, to Obola’s desk to sign.

But, it’s Boehner, who is a DEMOCRAT, so . . .

Glad we all turned out to gain that majority last year.


79 posted on 03/17/2015 3:53:52 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Nachum

Since everything is all mixed up and upside down since Barry made it the White Hut: Saudis will guarantee to Israel a 100 yer supply of oil (at cost), if Israel takes out Iran.


80 posted on 03/17/2015 4:09:33 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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