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Video: Dallas police open fire on schizophrenic man with screwdriver
CNN ^ | March 18, 2015 | By Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:26:04 PM PDT by ToxicMich

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To: cripplecreek
Spoken like a true Obamatard.

No, baseless slander designates you as the liberal in the room.

I suggest you read some history about what happens next, after a society gets used to cops simply blowing away the mentally ill, instead of making space, getting back up and using any of an incredible number of intervention options they have available.

Hers a big fat hint: they don't stop at the mentally ill.

21 posted on 03/18/2015 7:05:32 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: servantboy777

Stun guns and pepper spray are never used when the perp has a weapon. You always shoot to kill. Shooting to wound can get you killed.


22 posted on 03/18/2015 7:05:37 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: cripplecreek
He has a criminal history, Just search his history.

http://www.dallascounty.org/applications/english/record-search/rec-search_intro.php

23 posted on 03/18/2015 7:05:45 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: gaijin

I concur. In a perfect world maybe the cops could have thought fast enough to back around the car but A) that is hard to do without taking your eyes off the guy and B)if the guy kept advancing it would have ended the same way. I won’t second guess a man within stabbing distance of a crazy person with a screwdriver.

That said this does dovetail into my “be wary of involving the cops” mantra


24 posted on 03/18/2015 7:07:50 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: SVTCobra03

So, if I can’t stand a cop who seems clueless on how to handle a person with mental illness (they knew what was waiting for them), it means that I don’t love America? What kind of logic is that?


25 posted on 03/18/2015 7:09:21 PM PDT by ToxicMich ((If you are reading this, you are wasting your time. There is nothing here...))
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To: SVTCobra03

Stun guns don’t always work. Last summer in Ann Arbor a mentally ill woman off her meds and on drugs charged police with a knife.

On cop hit her with the stun gun and it didn’t even slow her down so the second cop put her down.


26 posted on 03/18/2015 7:09:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: ToxicMich

She called the police and told them she needed help because her schizo son was off his meds and was scaring her. They come to the door and she states that he is “off his chain”, schizo and talking about chopping people up. And she lets her enormous man of a “son” follow her out the door holding a screwdriver as he approaches those cops.

I don’t understand how anyone can think the cops weren’t right to feel threatened when he wouldn’t drop it and kept coming at them.


27 posted on 03/18/2015 7:15:49 PM PDT by Tamzee (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~~~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: ToxicMich

I don’t like police brutality, either, but sorry, this will likely be adjudicated a “good shoot”. The police have learned well the lessons of Dennis Tueller’s classic article in SWAT magazine, “How Close is Too Close?” and Massad Ayoob’s latest book, “Deadly Force”. A couple seconds aren’t even enough time for your life to flash before your eyes before you die.


28 posted on 03/18/2015 7:16:12 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: backwoods-engineer

The guy obviously had a screw loose.


29 posted on 03/18/2015 7:17:20 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: cripplecreek
ATT_HARASS_PUB_SERV

I wonder if this means he's assaulted officers before.

From the file "COMPETENCY_RESTORED, he's competent not a loony.
From last year. So the courts had him tested and he's competent for trial.

There goes the MSM agenda.

30 posted on 03/18/2015 7:17:26 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: ToxicMich

The officers should have been better prepared to deal with someone off meds. Why not use non lethal force for a crazy guy with a screwdriver? What a shame.


31 posted on 03/18/2015 7:17:29 PM PDT by TBall
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To: SVTCobra03
>>Stun guns and pepper spray are never used when the perp has a weapon.<<

Whatever. Paint with a broad brush, just freakin idiotic.

My son is diabetic. If he were in a hyper/hypoglycemic condition and cops happened up on him, my son would likely be dead because steroid freaks can't use common sense.

If these guyz were trained to deal with mentally ill people, they must have made D's on the exams.

There were other options, but these cops chose to take a mans life. I hope they are prosecuted. Not likely, but one could hope.

32 posted on 03/18/2015 7:20:25 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: TBall
“The officers should have been better prepared to deal with someone off meds.”

Can't agree more with you. Can't believe some of the comments I am reading here.

33 posted on 03/18/2015 7:20:56 PM PDT by ToxicMich ((If you are reading this, you are wasting your time. There is nothing here...))
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To: Tamzee

Interesting story of one cop holding fire in one situation and using lethal force in another just a few weeks later.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/03/ann_arbor_officer_who_fatally.html


34 posted on 03/18/2015 7:22:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: servantboy777
The guy was 4-6 feet away and moved at them with a weapon.

Even on the ground he refused to drop the weapon.

So, you are saying that the police maybe should've done this or that when
in reality the attack was there, the threat was real, and they acted in defense.

Those officers were trained to deal with the mentally ill, but when armed
there is no discussion or rational dealing with an upset man that big,
with a weapon.

35 posted on 03/18/2015 7:23:23 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

>>Even on the ground he refused to drop the weapon.<<

He was on the ground...dying. Don’t be a dumb @$$.


36 posted on 03/18/2015 7:27:58 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
Screw you, he wasn't complying even as he was bleeding. But no, you can't fathom the truth.

Go back to your peacenik site.

37 posted on 03/18/2015 7:31:14 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Tamzee
She called the police and told them she needed help because her schizo son was off his meds and was scaring her.

I made that mistake one time in 2001. Never again. Never call the cops unless you want someone arrested or killed.

Cordially,

38 posted on 03/18/2015 7:32:03 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: ToxicMich

So they ran out of 9v batteries? What’s up with the lack of Tasers????


39 posted on 03/18/2015 7:33:19 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link, good article. Sounds like everyone breathed a huge sigh of relief when the nut with the sword stopped slashing at the cops and put it down. Too bad the woman with the knife didn’t read about it before she tried to stab the same cop.


40 posted on 03/18/2015 7:40:29 PM PDT by Tamzee (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~~~ Ronald Reagan)
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