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Feds arrest family for 'refusing to answer questions' (video)
WND ^ | 3/20/2015 | Cheryl Chumley

Posted on 03/20/2015 7:48:34 AM PDT by amorphous

A man, woman and their 4-year-old boy at an unidentified Inland Border Patrol checkpoint are ordered and pulled from their vehicle, questioned and taken into custody – all for the seeming offense of refusing to say where they were headed.

A video of the incident, recorded by the family’s dashboard camera, opens with the man and woman chit-chatting with their son in the back, later identified as 4, and pulling up to a border checkpoint. The man, who’s driving, has his window a third of the way down.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: checkpoints; ibpcheckpoint; inlandborderpatrol; policestate; stasi
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

You’re barking up the wrong tree here in my opinion. There is nothing justifiable in this goon’s conduct, reactions or response. Clearly.


41 posted on 03/20/2015 8:55:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
what is the big deal with the driver responding to the question?

It's a BIG DEAL.

42 posted on 03/20/2015 8:56:07 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes, I used to live in Malone. You get more hassle coming back from Canada sometimes than I ever did on the Mexican border. Maybe they are right to keep an eye out for those French-speaking people so desperate to come to America (to shop at Wal-Mart and buy our cheaper gas).


43 posted on 03/20/2015 8:57:49 AM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: OldSmaj

Article author should have written “interior Border Patrol checkpoint.”

You probably already know this, but their intent is to catch illegals who have hooked up with a pre-arrange US-based transporter (= Hispanic with a panel van) after successfully crossing the border on foot. Fairly common 25-75 miles of the border within in CA, AZ, NM, and TX.

Here’s a Wikipedia link on them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_checkpoints


44 posted on 03/20/2015 8:59:05 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow)
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To: ladyjane

Determining our citizenship is fine. Beyond that—and producing a driver’s license or passport—tt is none of their business where you have been, where you are going, or what you are doing.


45 posted on 03/20/2015 8:59:31 AM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: Mastador1

Nothing new....okay....the wife gets beaten every weekend and it’s nothing new - 99.9% of the time. Did she ask for it? Nothing new? I mean he only hit her enough to remind her who is the boss, what’s the harm?

The victim here was an American citizen and family whose provenance and veracity had no observable question. A BS claim about a “dog alerting” is just that - BS.

Just because you can get used to oppression doesn’t me the rest of us have to stand for it. Goons. Nazi effing Goons.


46 posted on 03/20/2015 9:00:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
You’re barking up the wrong tree here in my opinion.

Sure. I know that. Especially here.

But in my opinion, it was a reasonable question which was met with an unreasonable response. I would have answered...and have many, many times when I cross over going out and coming in.

The first rule in any situation is to avoid conflict. Run if you can. But since you must pass through the checkpoint, don't be a jerk.

47 posted on 03/20/2015 9:00:54 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: Captain Rhino
You probably already know this...

I did, and I thought it was apparent that my questions were rhetorical, but thanks for the link...I can still learn things,

48 posted on 03/20/2015 9:01:55 AM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: ladyjane
Ok. You've identified it as a BIG DEAL. I asked what is the big deal?
49 posted on 03/20/2015 9:02:33 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

On some level, I can agree with prudence. But increasingly, prudence leads to acceptance and that leads to ‘norm’ which ends in subjugation.

At some point, ‘points’ have to be made and held fast.


50 posted on 03/20/2015 9:03:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Mastador1
These checkpoints have been around for decades, it’s nothing new and 99.9% of the time there is no real interaction with the agents.

Doesn't make 'em right or legal under the Constitution. If they're on the border, no problem. Fully within the United States, and impeding citizens who haven't left the country (or even state) is bullstuff.

51 posted on 03/20/2015 9:06:31 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: amorphous

Later


52 posted on 03/20/2015 9:11:50 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Leaning Right

(whatever that is)...Anywhere within 100 miles of our border, North, East, South or West.


53 posted on 03/20/2015 9:12:44 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Gaffer
At some point, ‘points’ have to be made and held fast.

Agreed. But I'm not at that point yet.

54 posted on 03/20/2015 9:17:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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To: Alex Murphy

this would be on the I-8 just before you head up to the Laguna mountains. there is a check point on the i-5 just north of Oceanside, and one on the I-15, most times the I5/I15 ones are closed


55 posted on 03/20/2015 9:18:24 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yet, what is the big deal with the driver responding to the question? Just say, "I'm headed home. Nebraska."

Just because you are willing to capitulate to the demands of the an agent, doesn't mean we ALL must capitulate to them.

Would that have been "easier?" Sure. But, the driver had no REQUIREMENT to answer the question - PERIOD! Whether you like it or not, he was not required to do so and when he exercised his right to NOT answer that question, these gestapo agents went off on him.

Are you so frivolous and carefree to willingly give up ALL of your rights, or just the first amendment ones? I know, just when it would be easier on you and your family, right?
56 posted on 03/20/2015 9:32:11 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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To: cuban leaf
You are (mostly) correct. Can't demand answers to the where you going type of questions, can only question the people in the vehicle to determine US citizenship. The ACLU concurs with this and the Supreme Court also agrees (yeah, not always the best when it comes to constitutional decisions, but instructive that they support the BP in this. . .and that the ACLU also agrees—the ACLU, now that is something.

http://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/documents/ACLU%20Border%20Rights%20ENGLISH.pdf

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12168013009786458670&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr: “We hold today that such stops are consistent with the Fourth Amendment. We also hold that the operation of a fixed checkpoint need not be authorized in advance by a judicial warrant.”

57 posted on 03/20/2015 9:43:18 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: amorphous

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BFL
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58 posted on 03/20/2015 9:43:56 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: IYAS9YAS

You are right, after all, once an illegal alien makes it over the ‘fence,’ he is home free. And we can go on fussing about how we aren’t doing enough to stop illegals.


59 posted on 03/20/2015 9:45:15 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ExTxMarine
All valid points. And as you pointed out, we all would have reacted differently or the same. Everyone is free to do as they please in that regard.
As such, I feel no compunction to explain myself to anyone.
60 posted on 03/20/2015 9:45:41 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?)
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