Posted on 03/21/2015 12:13:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
A ballot proposal criminalizing sodomy and allowing the death penalty for anyone who “touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification” is moving forward because constitutionally, there is really no way to stop it, despite the neo-Nazi nature of the proposed law.
Huntington Beach attorney Matt McLaughlin filed papers to begin gathering signatures for the ballot measure, the “Sodomite Suppression Act” on February 26th.
In California’s “direct democracy” any citizen can follow procedures to propose just about any law. That doesn’t mean that any law could pass, and even if passed, it doesn’t mean that any law could actually go into effect. Even laws passed by a majority of California voters may been overturned by judicial review, as was the case in the Prop. 8 gay marriage debate.
This latest initiative is creating news not because of what it would do if passed but because of the fact that it, so far, cannot be stopped at this stage.
Along with the required $200 fee, McLaughlin’s letter asking for certification of his initative, sent to the coordinator for Attorney General Kamala Harris, includes some bizarre language: “The abominable crime against nature known as buggery, called also sodomy, is a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha.”
McLaughlin’s ballot proposal continues, stating, “…the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.”
Harris’ office may actually be legally required to write a title and summary of the legislation, allowing signature gatherers to stand in front of shopping malls and grocery stores inviting patrons to sign a petition to put a death sentence for gays on the statewide ballot.
The Sacramento Bee reports that the Legislature’s Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus has now written a letter to the State Bar calling into question McLaughlin’s fitness to practice law.
A petition to take away his law license already has over 6,000 signers.
While submitting a ballot proposal costs just $200, the preparation of the proposal by the state can cost about $8,000.
Is or can this be called an example of Sharia Law?
Anyone who is not in agreement with the cultural Marxist and socialism dominating the Western world is already deemed part of the ‘lunatic fringe idiocy.’
As this is so off the wall, shouldn’t a CA conservative investigate this ‘McLaughlin’ character? His views are so crazy that, if this is his ‘normal’, he would have been disbarred years ago. Most likely, a solid investigation would show a radical leftist trying to smear conservatives. Except for (mostly) 0.00, you can’t hide your past!
THAT would look good in the press, a lefty doing what lefties do! In addition, losing his license to practice law.
Wouldn’t it be a riot if it passed?
Classic agent provocateur move. Nothing to see here.
Two can play at that game. A conservative could introduce
an initiative that provides for the disbanding of
corporations and the execution of corporate executives along
with all proprietors of small and medium businesses. The
problem with it is that the assclowns in the MSM would
actually support and promote it.
How about everybody’s daughter forced to watch a WNBA game?
Right, and now it swings wildly the other way in proposing death for touching somebody. Bizarre.
This is great!
Why?
Anybody that votes against it, would be toast in the next election!
Thomas Jefferson Notes on the State of Virginia
The revised code further proposes to proportion crimes and punishments. This is attempted on the following scale.
Sodomy = Dismemberment
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/JEFFERSON/ch14.html
Given Mr. McLaughlin’s politically insensitive statement, I suspect that all that he really wants is his 20 minutes of media attention as opposed to the official acceptance of law that he has proposed.
There is no debate about state laws which prohibit gay marriage.
More specifically, with all due respect to mom & pop, and also to California FReepers, as a consequence of California parents not making sure that their children are being taught about 10th Amendment-protected state powers versus constitutionally unprotected gay “rights,” Californians don’t understand pro-gay activist state judges wrongly ignored the 10th Amendment power of the voters to prohibit gay marriage.
Note that California’s constitution has an equal protections provision based on the Equal Protections Clause (EPC) of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A) of the federal Constitution. And what California’s activist judges got away with doing is applying the pro-gay PC interpretation of the 14th Amendmnent’s EPC to the same provision in California’s constitution.
California judges got away with this because Californians evidently do not understand that 14A’s EPC does not protect gay marriage. This is because the Supreme Court had clarified that the 14A didn’t add new rights to the Constitution. It only strengthens rights which the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect to the states.
“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.
And since the states have never amended the federal Constitution to expressly protect gay marriage, the states, or the people, are free to make laws which prohibit gay marriage in their state, as long as such laws do not also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.
“A conservative” can do or say anything - that does’t make what he said, or did, conservative. If a conservative called for disbanding property, he/she would certainly not be applying conservatism.
Think ideas, not people. It is much more clarifying.
oh wait, sorry - just back from my workout...too tired to be posting. I missed your point...initially....but I get it now. Sorry......my bad....
those that oppose this bill do so on the grounds that it’s ‘disgusting and vile’
the same argument used by those opposed to homo marriage
if we’re forced to accept homo marriage, then logic dictates this bill should also become law.
“Since, based on the court ruling, we have a constitutional right to engage in any sex activity with any consenting adult, I don’t see how the attorney general of California could certify such an initiative to be put up to a vote of the people.”
The Supreme Court ruled wrongly, and they know it.
Lex mala, lex nulla.
Tried doing an internet search on this guy. Came up with this from a leftie blog...
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Now you see why we wanted to sic The Google on this guy, right? Because WTF, is this even real? But he’s extremely invisible online. There are a few other Matt McLaughlins in California, none of whom seem to fit the profile of batshit lawyer with strong Jesus feelings against the gay sexytime. For instance, anti-“sodomite”-Matt probably isn’t the same Matt McLaughlin who is a singer with the Gay-Gays, the All-Gay Male Go-Gos Celebration. Or IS HE? Gay-Gays Matt, are you totally trolling everyone by submitting this bogus ballot shizz? If yes, please email Wonkette asap because we are DYING to hear all about it...
...The ballot initiative filing with the AG’s office offers little in the way of clues to McLaughlin’s identity, but there is an address that matches that of a lawyer by that name and address on avvo.com. When we looked the address up, it turned out to be a Mail Box Express store in Huntington Beach. Huh. That is definitely not a law office! In approximately four minutes of thorough searching, we also couldn’t come up with any legal cases involving a Matthew G. McLaughlin...We DID get a hit on a Matt McLaughlin, lawyer, same Mail Box Express address, BOOM, who in 2004 submitted a citizen ballot initiative to give bibles to all public school kids in California, grades 1-12, because “great literature.”
...And then Matt McLaughlin vanished into the Hotel California, to remain digitally invisible until he filed his thoughts on “sodomites” last week. But he he kept the same secret Mail Box Express address during all that time! He sounds absolutely fascinating. We hope to learn more about this super fun secret agent lawyer, it totally sounds like he and Wonkette could be BFFs just like Wonkette and Aaron Schock. If he is even real. Gay-Gays Matt, if it’s you, CALL US.
http://wonkette.com/577984/secret-agent-lawyer-files-ca-ballot-initiative-to-put-sodomites-to-death#
I had the pleasure of working at a Marine FOB maintaining and operating an Aerostat tethered ballon in the Helmand province as a contractor.
It was the third most active spot in Afghanistan. It was 11 months and a week straight of insight into the real lives of muslims.
Through the capable eye of the Wescam MX-20, EO/IR, camera, I can assure you the notion of sexual righteousness being a unique muslin practice in life is forever dead in my knowledge.
Homosexuality, paedophilia, bestiality, and incest are a very active aspect of muslim life.
Muslims have no moral high ground.
WBC supporter? Possibly. Agent provocateur? Also possible.
Serious? Well...given the disgust some folks feel, for whatever reason, about homosex...it could be he really feels this way and genuinely WANTS this to happen.
Is it right? Not really.
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