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To: CSM

“You completely missed my point.”

The point is that you made a conclusion that was based upon a patently false statement: “Yet, under current laws, illegal immigrants can sneak across the border and give birth and her child WOULD be eligible to run for president.” The actual fact is that current law does not make such a child eligible at all, despite political efforts to falsely pretend the laws should do so.

“That’s OK, I’ve decided to ignore the new Birthers.”

You use an insulting pejorative and then announce your intention to “ignore” the evidence refuting your false comments, which demonstrates there is little daylight to be discerned between your bad conduct and the bad conduct of the Liberals you claim to abhor. Congratulations.


328 posted on 03/24/2015 10:50:33 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
The actual fact is that current law does not make such a child eligible at all

But you posted a quote from that "ACQUISITION AND RETENTION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND NATIONALITY" document yourself. It starts out by saying, "U.S. citizenship may be acquired either at birth or through naturalization subsequent to birth." Those are the only two choices--there is no mention of "naturalization at birth." So there's no basis there for distinguishing between "citizen at birth" and "natural born citizen."

Then, later, it says, "All children born in and subject, at the time of birth, to the jurisdiction of the United States acquire U.S. citizenship at birth even if their parents were in the United States illegally at the time of birth." So apparently, yes, such a child is eligible. You might not like it--I don't much like it--and it may not be what was ever intended, but that is in fact what current laws say.

331 posted on 03/24/2015 11:30:51 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: WhiskeyX

My point was refuting the claim that only a person born whithin the borders of the US is eligible to become President. This argument goes back to Hoover and has been proven wrong time and again.

I was using a ludicrious example to show the ridiculessness of the claims being made. I accept that you likely have more “technical” knowldege about the specific example, but it does not negate my point.

The point is that this discussion is nothing more than a “spurious distraction” being used to attack Conservatism, and by extension Conservatives! I am not going to be distracted by this crop of birther discussions. It is irrelevant and a waste of time and energy.


334 posted on 03/24/2015 1:02:17 PM PDT by CSM
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