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Ted Cruz, the presidential candidate who wants to increase the H-1B cap by 500%
Computerworld ^ | March 23, 2015 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 03/24/2015 12:18:36 PM PDT by C19fan

It's going to be hard for the Republicans to field a presidential candidate as enthusiastic about the H-1B visa as U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas). Cruz, who announced his presidential bid this morning, once proposed an immediate increase in the base H-1B cap from 65,000 to 325,000. Cruz offered the H-1B increase as an amendment in 2013 to the Senate's comprehensive immigration bill.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; cruz; demagogicparty; election2016; h1b; immigration; l1b; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; paultardation; paultardnoisemachine; potus; randpaulnoisemachine; randsconcerntrolls; tedcruz; texas
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To: WIBamian
Now because he's accepted their endorsements, there is quid pro quo, meaning he will resist all bills that punish illegal invaders and/or prevent the exploitation of illegal workers.

That sounds like an awfully big assumption on your part, ad we know what happens when we assume... Unless you have some evidence that those endorsements have caused Walker to change his positions on immigration in favor of illegal immigration, then that sounds like something you are AFRAID will happen, not something that HAS happened.

Due to the clear and present danger to Wisconsin citizens by thieving, raping, and murdering illegal invaders, Walker could have implemented a State of Emergency and mobilized the full assets at his disposal to make Wisconsin a very, unforgiving state to work in for illegal invaders.

And have you looked at the relevant statutes regarding ordering a state of emergency? Do you have any idea if what you are proposing is even legally possible? If not, how can you be so angry at Walker for not doing something that may not even be possible for him to do? And even if Walker could order a state of Emergency to deal with the crime problem, it could not legally be directed solely or even primarily at illegals.

Target the Chamber of Amnesty members that employ the illegals! Target landlords that give housing to illegals!

Remember I asked you to tell me what Walker could do as governor. These steps you suggest, while good steps to take, are ones that have to be done by the feds. The states cannot enforce federal laws concerning hiring illegals, etc. So in this case, you are mad at the feds, not at Walker.

61 posted on 03/24/2015 3:32:05 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
Of course I am disappointed with the feds, but under the obamanation, we have seen liberals and RINOS refuse to enforce federal immigration laws.

But you treat Walker like he is not responsible at all for the increase in illegal invaders in his state. That's like saying Moon Beam Brown is not responsible for the increased mexifornication of Cali. Doesn't fly.

When a politician takes Chamber of Amnesty money, they ALWAYS do the bidding of their masters. Prove me wrong. You can't.

Walker has sold his soul to the Chamber-of-Amnesty and we, the American citizens, are going to pay for it.

62 posted on 03/24/2015 3:45:36 PM PDT by WIBamian (I'm a Cruz Control Designated Driver! Join me on the Liberty Express across America!)
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To: C19fan; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson; onyx

The real lie in that article is that CRUZ is proposing no such thing. This amendment, like the comprehensive immigration bill, is from the LAST CONGRESS, and it has been dead since early in the Congress.

Also, even the description of the amendment is not exactly accurate. Any increase in H-1B by Cruz’s amendment would have been based on a verified shortage.

Now, how important is the point that the amendment didn’t get anywhere because the comprehensive immigration bill didn’t get anywhere and is now dead?

Cruz’s amendment would have (1) made ANY KIND of path to citizenship absolutely forbidden for any illegal alien. (2) Would have controlled the LEGAL system with specific quotas and costs. Small business visas would have required a million dollars. Others would have required a visa holder already to have a research position in a university or industry on a legal basis, and the tech visa would have been allowed only in a time of shortage.

All of this is MOOT, of course, because the comprehensive bill is dead in the water....as a result of killer amendments such as Cruz’s.

So, he was doing strategic killing of a bad bill, but this is presented as if it’s an active proposal. It happened in 2013...2 years ago. It is dead.

Cruz is PROPOSING no such thing.


63 posted on 03/24/2015 3:50:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: glock rocks

Cruz’s amendments DID include illegals. He proposed absolute prohibition of any kind of path to citizenship whatsoever for ANY illegal alien.

Do you agree with that?


64 posted on 03/24/2015 3:51:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: WIBamian
When a politician takes Chamber of Amnesty money, they ALWAYS do the bidding of their masters. Prove me wrong. You can't.

It is not up to me to prove you wrong. You made the assertion - it is up to you to support that assertion with verifiable facts, if you want to be taken seriously.

But you treat Walker like he is not responsible at all for the increase in illegal invaders in his state. That's like saying Moon Beam Brown is not responsible for the increased mexifornication of Cali.

I am fully in favor of holding politicians responsible for what they do or don't do - but I don't hold them responsible for what they can't do. So far, you have not given any specific examples of something that Walker could legally do as governor to reduce the number of illegal aliens in Wisconsin that he has refused to do - nor have you given specific examples of things Walker has done to increase the number of illegal aliens in Wisconsin.

In the case of California, I can point to a number of things the politicians here have done to encourage illegal immigration, from sanctuary cities to forbidding the police from reporting illegals they arrest to ICE; from granting drivers licenses to illegals to actively encouraging them to sign up for Obamacare. Now, if you have examples of Walker doing things like that, let me know.

So far, you have made a lot of statements and allegations, but have provided very little substance.

65 posted on 03/24/2015 3:59:16 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: glorgau; GeronL; mrsmith; nascarnation; xzins; DoodleDawg; SpeakerToAnimals; null and void; ...
That’s a deal breaker for me.

See post #63 for the full story not mentioned by this article.
66 posted on 03/24/2015 4:01:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: C19fan

Coincidentally, today Rush is talking about pretty much this same thing!

Rush: But one thing I’ve noticed is that this quest — in some cases it’s a quest; in other cases, another reason for it — this quest for perfection that seems to possess or obsess many conservative groups leads them to nitpick and find a single issue or maybe two that conservative candidate X is supposedly wrong on, and they immediately launch into criticism. And when conservatives launch criticism of conservative candidates, the media just eats it up. They just love it, and they glom onto it, and they amplify it even more than their own criticism.


67 posted on 03/24/2015 4:04:08 PM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: xzins

I don’t have a dog in this fight. My job is safe. I know many are threatened by H1B. If Cruz does not nip this in the bud he will lose. If he does not support H1B restrictions he better say so now.


68 posted on 03/24/2015 4:21:10 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: P-Marlowe

Well there is nothing in it for me since I am 63 and will never be replaced by an H1B type. But I count this as a distinct mark against Cruz.


69 posted on 03/24/2015 4:24:16 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (E)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals; SoConPubbie

Let me say it again: the proposal was a killer amendment offered to a 2013 (two years ago) comprehensive immigration bill. The comprehensive immigration bill has been dead since early in the PREVIOUS congress.


70 posted on 03/24/2015 4:24:57 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: xzins

So. The bill is dead, and yet people bring it up?

Saboteurs.


71 posted on 03/24/2015 4:28:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals; jwalsh07; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson

The author of this article is a great propagandist. Why?

Because the Cruz Amendment was TURNED DOWN. It is dead. It was offered as an amendment to the comprehensive immigration bill that everyone hated.

If it was EVERYTHING the liberals want, THEN WHY did they turn it down?

1. It absolutely prohibited any illegal alien EVER having a path to citizenship.

2. It made ANY immigrant acceptable ONLY by LEGAL immigration.

3. It required: business H-1Bs to put up a million bucks. It doubled the fees for all H-1Bs. It required other H-1Bs to ALREADY have a research position. For other H-1Bs, it required the Bureau of Labor to VERIFY that we have a labor shortage in that particular field.

Why, if this was such a “liberal” gold mine, did that previous Senate KILL IT? It’s obvious if you read the above restrictions it would have placed on the comprehensive immigration bill.

Finally, let me repeat: It is dead. Harry Reid and pals killed it.


72 posted on 03/24/2015 4:34:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: combat_boots

See #72


73 posted on 03/24/2015 4:34:28 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: combat_boots
Saboteurs.

Exactly!

This isn't about Cruz, this is about their preferred candidate and trying to damp down enthusiasm for Cruz.

Because as of right now, Cruz has left everyone else in the dust where the base is concerned so they have to try and find something negative about Cruz, anything will do.
74 posted on 03/24/2015 4:42:24 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: jwalsh07; xzins
Well there is nothing in it for me since I am 63 and will never be replaced by an H1B type. But I count this as a distinct mark against Cruz.

See post #72 for the rest of the story.
75 posted on 03/24/2015 4:43:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie; jwalsh07; xzins

Also, please see post #63 for more details


76 posted on 03/24/2015 4:44:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins

You an I know that. JQ Public learns in eight second sound bites. “Cruz wants more H1B foreigners to take your job”. That will sink him if he does not make his position clear.See this thread for proof.


77 posted on 03/24/2015 4:46:22 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: C19fan

Has Cruz said this recently? Has he been asked to explain it? I’d like to hear what he has to say about it first before writting him off, as you have.


78 posted on 03/24/2015 4:51:46 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Pajamajan

He has not said this recently. Even this article quickly passes by the fact that this was an amendment offered 2 years ago in 2013. AND that the amendment was killed. See #72


79 posted on 03/24/2015 4:58:07 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: SoConPubbie

There is more to the story than 63. There are American companies laying off STEM workers, replacing them with H1B workers and forcing the laid off citizens to train their lower wage replacements or be denied severance. H1B is not, like amnesty, a bright red line but neither is it something that I support or will rationalize.


80 posted on 03/24/2015 5:02:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (E)
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