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Germanwings A320 crash: Plane fell for 18 minutes (not 8)
The Scotsman ^ | March 25, 2015

Posted on 03/25/2015 5:24:23 AM PDT by maggief

NEW evidence has emerged that the Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed in southern France yesterday dived for 18 minutes, and not eight as previously thought.

France’s Transport Minister Segolene Royal said this morning that the crew had stopped responding to radio messages at 10.30am, with the plane flying over the Mediterranean sea.

The aircraft crashed into the side of a mountain in the French Alps at 10.48am, suggesting that the plane had descended from 28,000ft to 2,000ft without signalling an emergency.

Ms Royal added that events in the cockpit in the 60 seconds between 10.30am and 10.31am were ‘crucial’ and could shed light on what caused the disaster.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201503; 20150324; airlinesecurity; alps; aviation; barcelona; dusseldorf; europe; frenchalps; germanwings; mediterranean
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To: maggief

Nationalities don’t matter. Terrorists have enclaves in most western countries now

This is probably not terrorism though.


21 posted on 03/25/2015 5:39:33 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Celtic Conservative
It sounds more to me like catastophic de-pressurisation that terrorism. Occams razor and all that.

Those two items are not mutually exclusive. The former can most certainly be caused by the latter.

22 posted on 03/25/2015 5:40:19 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

True enough. It’s just too soon. Not enough is known yet. Anything at this point is baseless speculation.

CC


23 posted on 03/25/2015 5:43:50 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: txrefugee

Now this does sound like a terror attack.

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This is a bad article that gets almost everything wrong. The plane was at 38,000 feet, not 28,000 feet for starters. Data is available on Flightaware for anybody who wants to take a look.


24 posted on 03/25/2015 5:44:28 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: kjam22

I thought perhaps it may have been slow enough to not be noticeable until it was too late. I do admit that I am ignorant on this topic and was merely putting in my two cents worth of speculation.


25 posted on 03/25/2015 5:46:04 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: maggief

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0

Among the theories that have been put forward by air safety analysts not involved in the investigation is the possibility that the pilots could have been incapacitated by a sudden event such as a fire or a drop in cabin pressure.

A senior French military official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing, said that the lack of communication from the pilots during the plane’s descent was disturbing, and that the possibility that their silence was deliberate could not be ruled out.


26 posted on 03/25/2015 5:46:17 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Tzfat

What kind of structural failure might occur?


27 posted on 03/25/2015 5:47:58 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: arasina

Oh no problem.... I’m ignorant on the topic too. I used to fly every week on business. Very little now. I just always hoped the pilots were paying attention to what was going on... who knows :)


28 posted on 03/25/2015 5:48:36 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: txrefugee

Why?


29 posted on 03/25/2015 5:48:55 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: kjam22
you like to think that pilots would notice if the auto pilot flew the stupid thing into the ground?

No doubt they did notice it if that was what happened.

Even better would be for them to notice BEFORE it flew into the ground.

30 posted on 03/25/2015 5:49:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Moonman62

Here’s another source.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germanwings-plane-crash-airbus-a320-glide-to-destruction-took-18-minutes-not-8-10131891.html

(Could not post as thread due to copyright rules.)


31 posted on 03/25/2015 5:51:40 AM PDT by maggief
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To: thackney

LOL


32 posted on 03/25/2015 5:53:26 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: maggief

I’m curious if and when people my start noticing the string of Airbus crashes that are remarkably similar. Not just the Airbus 320, others have similar fall or dive without any contact endings. Too many.


33 posted on 03/25/2015 5:55:16 AM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: maggief

the most disturbing thing is that they stopped responding to communication

like malaysian 370 too


34 posted on 03/25/2015 5:56:27 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016 (for 16 years of conservative bliss))
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To: maggief

Reports were the plane just received an A-check the prior day.

What procedures are involved in an A-check?


35 posted on 03/25/2015 5:56:54 AM PDT by Clay Moore (The future SHOULD belong to those who slander Muhammed.)
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To: arasina

They said the nose gear doors had maintenance that delayed departure. Those sit right under the cockpit.

Or an explosion in the E&E bay under the cockpit floor (with 3 access doors on the outside of the aircraft) could take out a lot of things including the pilots, with the aircraft still flying (albeit not automatically).


36 posted on 03/25/2015 5:57:55 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: maggief

1. Massive systems failure.
2. Decompression with failure of pilots O2. (A few years ago there was a plane where the pilot’s window blew out and he was partially sucked out. They had to hold on to him to keep him from going all the way out. Somehow he lived.)
3. Unemployed Muslum yoots.


37 posted on 03/25/2015 5:57:59 AM PDT by Gamecock ("The Christian who has stopped repenting has stopped growing." A.W. Pink)
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To: arasina

I’m pretty sure that when the plane descends to a certain altitude AGL, Above Ground Level, an alarm sounds in the cockpit; similar to the Stall Alarm that sounds if airspeed falls too slow and a stall is imminent.

Since the descent was reportedly slow and gradual they should have experienced that alarm several minutes before actual crash, and even if there was hanky-panky with the flight attendants going on, there was ample time to quit it and recover the aircraft; which obviously was not done. That’s why I suspect foul play.


38 posted on 03/25/2015 5:58:01 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Clay Moore

Minor.


39 posted on 03/25/2015 5:59:04 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

From 39 Turks to one Turkish-German ...

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/39-turks-among-victims-in-germanwings-plane-crash-report.aspx?pageID=238&nID=80101&NewsCatID=351

One German citizen of Turkish descent was on the plane operated by Lufthansa’s Germanwings budget airline that crashed in southern France on March 24 en route from Barcelona to Düsseldorf, killing 150 people, Turkish Foreign Ministry has announced.

In its statement, the ministry denied the report of a Catalan news outlet which earlier claimed that there were 39 Turkish passengers in the plane.


40 posted on 03/25/2015 5:59:59 AM PDT by maggief
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