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Germanwings A320 crash: Plane fell for 18 minutes (not 8)
The Scotsman ^ | March 25, 2015

Posted on 03/25/2015 5:24:23 AM PDT by maggief

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To: Kenny Bunk; windcliff

I would hope too that the analog instrumentation is fed by separate pitots, which would seem to make sense.


161 posted on 03/25/2015 9:47:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tzfat
Naïve maybe, about airline priorities, economics, and government mandates, more like Neil Cavuto territory than Buck Rogers.

Anyway aren't "average airline pilots" notoriously known to be bad investors? You've heard the jokes. And their picks of women (a.k.a. future ex's?) ;)

I think our opinions on this accident are probably close to the same, so really our disagreements are tangential. The crew was (likely) somehow incapacitated and therefore the airplane crashed. The rest is up for more debate and speculation, we need more facts.

162 posted on 03/25/2015 10:02:26 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: McGruff
Thanks for the link.

From the story: 10.30am - when the pilots were apparently chatting away - and 10.31am when contact was lost.

Well, at least we know both crewmembers were in the cockpit when it happened (whatever it was). I wondered if there was only one pilot in the cockpit at the time (restroom break for the other one, etc).

Those windows are very thick and laminated -- if one pane cracks the window should stay structurally intact. Not that it's impossible, it's just down the list of likely possibilities.

163 posted on 03/25/2015 10:27:33 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: zipper
I don't think you get it. Sully thought "out of the box", and saved over a hundred people's lives because of it. I'd wager that 90 plus percent of pilots would not have survived the scenario he faced that fateful day

You clearly do not know many airline pilots, or think very highly of them. Sullenberger was average. Your problem is you think the average is low.
164 posted on 03/25/2015 10:32:22 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: zipper

One does not need to be a pilot to pick a bad future ex.

Trust me.


165 posted on 03/25/2015 10:46:25 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: null and void

No, but it helps.


166 posted on 03/25/2015 3:00:32 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: Tzfat; All
You clearly do not know many airline pilots, or think very highly of them. Sullenberger was average. Your problem is you think the average is low.

Not at all! You called Captain Sullenberger "an average pilot", and I defended him. You're playing games with semantics. The fun I was poking at your term "average pilots", posed as questions had to do with their stereotyped life choices, an obvious tongue-in-cheek reference that had nothing to do with aviation skills. One would think it's not a slight to your profession to praise the extraordinary accomplishments of another pilot, but your personal tone toward him indicates otherwise.

Chesley Sullenberger -- ex-Air Force fighter pilot, Red Flag mission commander, safety investigator, civilian instructor at US Airways, Air Line Pilots Association safety chairman and accident investigator. Two master's degrees, founded his own safety consulting firm Safety Reliability Methods, Inc. after retirement. Not to mention the "miracle on the Hudson". Accomplished, sought-after public speaker.

No, he is not, and probably never was "an average pilot". And by calling him that -- let's just say your ego is writing checks your body can't cash!

167 posted on 03/25/2015 3:54:27 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: SeaDragon

ping


168 posted on 03/25/2015 3:59:17 PM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: Mr. K

Good point. That MH370 is an ongoing mystery, and most serious.


169 posted on 03/26/2015 3:53:14 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Reno89519

Yes, indeed. The airbus which crashed recently in Indonesia had just such a pattern.

And with the plane shot down over the Ukraine, we are still waiting for the unedited tape of the black box.

There is something going on.


170 posted on 03/26/2015 4:52:18 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Tzfat

I am former B 36 pilot USAF & retired air traffic controller. . The world is full of problems in aviation that are coming out.


171 posted on 03/27/2015 10:09:17 PM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. Acts 4:12)
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To: southland
I am former B 36 pilot USAF...

Ah hah! So, you are the one who flew over our house on Lake Worth opposite the end of the runway at Carswell AFB and vibrated all of the china out of the kitchen cabinets.

It only took 65 years, but I've found you...

172 posted on 03/27/2015 10:15:00 PM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01

We did fly in from Roswell. I was there before they invented flying sausers..


173 posted on 03/28/2015 6:13:35 AM PDT by southland ( I have faith in the creator Republicans freed the slaves. Acts 4:12)
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