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Germanwings crash: pilot locked out of plane's cockpit, say reports
Guardian News ^

Posted on 03/26/2015 4:53:26 AM PDT by navysealdad

New York Times and AFP news agency say evidence from cockpit voice recorder suggests pilot left before flight 4U9525’s descent and could not get back in. Evidence from a cockpit voice recorder recovered from the Germanwings flight 4U9525 that crashed on Tuesday suggests that one pilot left the cockpit before the plane’s descent and was unable to get back in, according to two separate reports.

French air accident investigators say they have extracted a recording that contains “voices and sounds” from the cockpit of the plane before it crashed in the Alps, killing all 150 people on board.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4u9525; andreaslubitz; france; germanwings; germany; lufthansa
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1 posted on 03/26/2015 4:53:26 AM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

On FNC now: Press briefing, “Prosecutor saying crash was deliberate.”


2 posted on 03/26/2015 4:57:06 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si vis pacem para bellum.)
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To: navysealdad

The agency said the cockpit recording indicated that one of the pilot’s seats was pushed back and the door opened and closed. Knocking is then heard, said the source, adding “there was no more conversation from that point until the crash”.The source said an alarm indicating the proximity to the ground could be heard before the moment of impact.


3 posted on 03/26/2015 4:57:30 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: navysealdad
Now they are saying the passengers' screams could be heard on the recording.

In presser, it was asked what the ethnic background of the flight crew was. A: One was German national... they were not terrorists (ED: not verbatim, but translator used that word)

4 posted on 03/26/2015 4:57:34 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: navysealdad

Live news conference now

They are not giving the name or nationality or religion of the copilot

Either they don’t yet know or are stonewalling


5 posted on 03/26/2015 4:59:35 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

His name was posted on another thread.


6 posted on 03/26/2015 5:01:29 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Vaquero

It’s the old “modified limited hangout” ploy.


7 posted on 03/26/2015 5:02:59 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: navysealdad

The co-pilot of the doomed Germanwings plane appeared to want to “destroy the plane,” Brice Robin, Public Prosecutor of Marseille, said today.

The co-pilot of the Germanwings airbus that crashed in the French Alps Tuesday had 630 hours of flight experience and had started working in 2013, an airline spokeswoman told ABC News.


8 posted on 03/26/2015 5:04:18 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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French prosecutors say copilot of the plane, Andreas Guenter Lubitz


9 posted on 03/26/2015 5:08:00 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: navysealdad

Let’s just cut through the crap and give the names a religions of the pilots.


10 posted on 03/26/2015 5:08:11 AM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: navysealdad

Key Facts
Andreas Guenter Lubitz lives in Rheinland Pfalz, Germany. Andreas Guenter Lubitz lives in Rheinland Pfalz. Andreas Guenter obtained a third class medical designation in 06/2010; the designation expires in 06/2015.
Certifications and Ratings
Levels:
Student Pilot
Private Pilot Foreign Based
Ratings:
Private Pilot (Foreign Based) - Airplane Single Engine Land
Private Pilot (Foreign Based) - Glider


11 posted on 03/26/2015 5:12:30 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: navysealdad

The ONLY reason for not giving the co-pilot’s name is because he’s muslim.


12 posted on 03/26/2015 5:12:34 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: navysealdad

FAA recognizes Andreas Guenter Lubitz

Rheinland Pfalz-based pilot sets positive example
http://aviation-business-gazette.com/A44/B58/Pilot-Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz-Rheinland-Pfalz-.html


13 posted on 03/26/2015 5:13:23 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Andreas lubitz is the copilot


14 posted on 03/26/2015 5:13:56 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: navysealdad

His review here says he was a private pilot, “foreign based”.

http://pilots-airmen.findthedata.com/l/986395/Andreas-Guenter-Lubitz


15 posted on 03/26/2015 5:14:00 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight
This appears to be him:
16 posted on 03/26/2015 5:19:43 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.)
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YOU TUBE VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHxv7bsqbxA

A Purser’S Airbus Cockpit EMERGENCY Access Procedure

In the event of an emergency, an aircraft purser is able to utilise an emergency entry procedure to the cockpit of planes in the Airbus fleet.

Did one Germanwings pilot deliberately lock the other out of the cockpit? Flight recorder reveals colleague tried to smash door down - as it emerges access code can be disabled from INSIDE

The pilot of the doomed Germanwings Airbus A320 may have deliberately locked his co-pilot and crew out of the cockpit minutes before it crashed into an Alpine mountainside killing 150 people, it was claimed today.
Audio files taken from the black box recorder suggested that one of the pilots was forced to try and smash down the door after being unable to enter the flight deck, according to the New York Times.
Experienced pilots today told MailOnline that under normal conditions crew have an emergency access code to enter the cockpit through the locked door.
They can only be stopped from using it if whoever is inside the cockpit manually – and intentionally – disables it.
The revelation will heighten fears that suicide or a terror attack was the cause of the disaster.
Locks on cockpit doors were introduced throughout the world’s airlines in the aftermath of 9/11 to keep terrorists from taking the controls in a hijacking.
Meanwhile, the co-pilot was named today as Andreas Günter Lubitz, a 28-year-old German who had just 600 hours of flying experience, but had won an award for his outstanding flying skills.
The captain was named by local media only as German father-of-two Patrick S.

Tony Newton, a Civil Aviation Authority examiner and commercial pilot with 20 years’ experience of flying A320 aircraft, told MailOnline: ‘This takes the whole thing off in a different direction.
‘Blocking access requires a deliberate action on behalf of the pilot. It’s a pretty dark thing to have happened.’
Cockpit recordings recovered from the crash site indicated one of the seats was pushed back and the door opened and closed.
An unnamed military investigator told the New York Times: ‘The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer.

‘And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer. You can hear he is trying to smash the door down.’
A source told AFP news agency that an alarm indicating the proximity to the ground could be heard before the moment of impact.
The recording has shed new light on the missing eight minutes from 10.31am when air traffic controllers lost contact with the pilots, who failed to send any distress signal.
Details from the first report submitted by the French to the German government revealed that at 10.31am, the 24-year-old Airbus A320 left its assigned altitude and began dropping towards the ground at a speed of 3,500ft per minute, before smashing into a ravine at 6,200ft.

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17 posted on 03/26/2015 5:21:35 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: PghBaldy

Now we wait to see which islamic terrorist group he was affiliated with.


18 posted on 03/26/2015 5:36:32 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: PghBaldy

If true the co-pilot had just 600 hours.........just long enough to do what he was trained to do.


19 posted on 03/26/2015 5:39:17 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

According to Faro de Vigo, a Spanish paper, this is Andreas Guenter Lubitz.

20 posted on 03/26/2015 5:47:23 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Flu season: Wash your hands.)
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