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Indiana: A Religious Liberty Bellwether
American Conservative ^ | March 30, 2015 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 03/30/2015 9:58:31 AM PDT by C19fan

I spent the weekend reading as much as I could about the controversy over Indiana’s new religious freedom law. What it tells us is very bad, from a conservative perspective, especially a religious conservative perspective. Let me explain.

First, the Indiana law is not substantially different from the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act, nor is it substantially different from state RFRAs in place in most other states in the US. Indiana law professor Daniel O. Conkle, who supports gay rights in general and same-sex marriage in particular, also supports the Indiana law, and explains why here. Excerpts:

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: freedom; gay; homosexualagenda; indiana; mikepence; religious; rfra
Waterloo moment?
1 posted on 03/30/2015 9:58:31 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

[[Waterloo moment? ]]

No, he is already caving in to pressure from gay groups by ‘refining’ the bill


2 posted on 03/30/2015 10:03:04 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: C19fan
Religious Freedom Restoration Act in a nutshell:

Christians will not be able to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

Mooselimbs WILL be able to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.

3 posted on 03/30/2015 10:05:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Bob434

I would be curious, before knee jerking ourselves, what said “refinement” actually consists of. Perhaps it only consists of denying a raft of strawmen that never were true in the first place.


4 posted on 03/30/2015 10:05:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: C19fan

Green = States with RFRA laws.
Blue = States with RFRA bills.
5 posted on 03/30/2015 10:10:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Federal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act

States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Acts


6 posted on 03/30/2015 10:10:48 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: C19fan

If it were up to me I’d say businesses and private organizations have the First Amendment right of Freedom of Assembly that allows them to discriminate as to who they want for customers.

Then let the market determine whether or not a Christian and heterosexual only bakery should continue to do business. Let the courts stay out of it.


7 posted on 03/30/2015 10:16:02 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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One left-leaning Fed judge can stick a knife right through Indiana’s new law, in the name of tolerance.

The Number One consideration for Presidential candidates from now on is that he will be picking the judges.


8 posted on 03/30/2015 10:17:05 AM PDT by lurk
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One left-leaning Fed judge can stick a knife right through Indiana’s new law, in the name of tolerance.

And unfortunately, this will go to the courts and become a tennis ball back and forth until it goes to the "Supremes" in 2 or 3 years. I can smell it coming.

9 posted on 03/30/2015 10:22:47 AM PDT by taildragger (It's Cruz, Pence, or Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: C19fan; All

Thanks for the update about Indiana’s religious freedom law.

I don’t have problems that that law amounts to nothing more than a right to a court hearing. This is because such laws can be abused. Radical Muslims could use such laws as a license to cut people’s heads off for example.

The bottom line is that people with religious convictions need to get up to speed with the 14th Amendment in order to defend their constitutionally enumerated religious protections in court.


10 posted on 03/30/2015 10:29:32 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: HiTech RedNeck

[[Perhaps it only consists of denying a raft of strawmen that never were true in the first place.]]

Perhaps, I hope Pence is that strong and has that kind of integrity- I don’t know them an, so I was just reacting to what looked on the surface like another cave-in- I hope you’;re right


11 posted on 03/30/2015 10:52:49 AM PDT by Bob434
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The Number One consideration for Presidential candidates from now on is that he will be picking the judges.””

Yes, because liberal demrat judges don’t deliver justice, they deliver their own brand of tyranny and call it “the law.”


12 posted on 03/30/2015 11:23:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: C19fan

Time to move the Superbowl out of San Francisco.


13 posted on 03/30/2015 11:47:25 AM PDT by fayco9
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Republican leaders of the Indiana legislature appeared before the media today to say they want to amend the legislation they recently passed.

Already buckling under to business pressure it appears......


14 posted on 03/30/2015 1:28:32 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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