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Governor Scott Walker Wants Wisconsin to Pass Bill to Ban Abortions After 20 Weeks
Life News ^ | April 3, 2015 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/03/2015 7:26:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 04/03/2015 7:26:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Walker should turn the tables on the ‘Progressives’ and use those famous words ‘Safe, Legal and Rare’.


2 posted on 04/03/2015 7:31:02 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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Liberal heads exploding in 3...2...1...


3 posted on 04/03/2015 7:41:51 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Immoral, unconstitutional legislation. It grants explicit permission to kill babies, all of them, as long as they are killed on the arbitrary schedule of mere men.

God and the Constitution require equal protection for every person.

Every legislator, every chief executive, every judge, has sworn a sacred oath to support and defend that Constitution.

That should be the end of the debate.


4 posted on 04/03/2015 7:44:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Every legislator, every chief executive, every judge, has sworn a sacred oath to support and defend that Constitution.

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Oaths don’t mean much anymore. Politicians are professional liars. They’ll say anything to live off the taxpayer. Who ever holds them accountable?


5 posted on 04/03/2015 7:57:28 AM PDT by Starboard
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Abortionists don’t obey these laws anyway, do they?


6 posted on 04/03/2015 7:59:35 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEALY CRUZ 2016)
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To: Starboard

If we don’t, who will?


7 posted on 04/03/2015 8:01:24 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

You and I believe in accountability, but the reality is we are vastly outnumbered by those who don’t. As long as government is able to appease the masses there will be no accountability.


8 posted on 04/03/2015 8:09:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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I’ll worry about those others when those who call themselves “conservatives,” and “Christians,” stop compromising equal protection for the right to life of every child. Because the latter are the main obstacle to stopping this vast holocaust.


9 posted on 04/03/2015 8:13:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

After 20 weeks of gestation, the fetus can survive on it’s own, and therefore abortion is same as premeditated murder.


10 posted on 04/03/2015 8:30:25 AM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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>>Walker should turn the tables on the ‘Progressives’ and use those famous words ‘Safe, Legal and Rare’.<<

Very bad advice. The left will hear only “safe” and “legal” and rarity will go out the window. Better to stick with his sincere convictions and fight to restrict abortions to the extent possible politically, something he’s done a good job of in Wisconsin.

When Planned Parenthood clinics are closing, you’re making significant progress, and the pro-life organizations respect that.


11 posted on 04/03/2015 8:34:53 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: entropy12

Abortion before 20 weeks of gestation is equally premeditated murder.


12 posted on 04/03/2015 8:36:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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and fight to restrict abortions to the extent possible politically

It's a mirage. A mirage for which they continue to surrender the only two real moral, constitutional, and legal arguments against abortion on demand to obtain.

13 posted on 04/03/2015 8:38:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Immoral, unconstitutional legislation

This legislation is every bit moral. As a matter of fact, not pursuing it is immoral.

To insist on legislation to ban all abortions is to insist on something unobtainable. To oppose this legislation by insisting on the unobtainable is to cooperate in evil by condemning those it might have saved if passed.

Where this legislation might be considered immoral is if it's author had no further intention of further restricting abortion by subsequent legislation once this legislation passed.

14 posted on 04/03/2015 8:46:51 AM PDT by johniegrad
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It’s only “unobtainable” because our representatives, including those who call themselves “pro-life,” refuse to fulfill the primary obligation of their oath, which is to provide EQUAL PROTECTION for the right to life of every person in their jurisdiction.

And if you have the governmental power to regulate mass murder, you most certainly have the power to stop mass murder.


15 posted on 04/03/2015 8:50:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

And what do you think, prudentially speaking, would be the result of proposing legislation to ban all abortion at this time?


16 posted on 04/03/2015 8:51:53 AM PDT by johniegrad
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Where this legislation might be considered immoral is if it's author had no further intention of further restricting abortion by subsequent legislation once this legislation passed.

Their alleged intent is meaningless in terms of the law.

The fact is, these bills grant an explicit governmental license to kill babies. All of them.

That's immoral.

That's unconstitutional.

If you surrender the moral basis, and the constitutional basis, you have absolutely no power left to stand in the way of abortion on demand.

Which is the primary reason the bloodbath has continued for more than four decades.

17 posted on 04/03/2015 8:53:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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And what do you think, prudentially speaking, would be the result of proposing legislation to ban all abortion at this time?

If every Christian, every conservative, would refuse to give any further political aid and comfort to those who compromise equal protection for the life of every person, abortion on demand would stop in this country almost overnight.

18 posted on 04/03/2015 8:55:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Their alleged intent is meaningless in terms of the law.

That's true but you alleged that the legislation was immoral and intent is a basic tenet of analyzing the morality of an act.

I agree that existing law allowing abortion is immoral. We have many immoral laws.

But in the face of immoral laws allowing abortion, it is not immoral to restrict the reach of those laws if their repeal cannot be immediately accomplished. Again, to not limit their reach when it's possible is in itself immoral.

19 posted on 04/03/2015 8:59:50 AM PDT by johniegrad
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True. But progress will still be made regardless. The Left can not claim that this will ‘Outlaw’ abortions.
You eat an elephant by small bites. I say use “Progressives’” terms against them. They always seem to outmaneuver conservatives.


20 posted on 04/03/2015 9:00:01 AM PDT by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in am dangerous Liberal world.)
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