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As Quakes Rattle Oklahoma, Fingers Point to Oil and Gas Industry
nytimes.com ^ | 4/3/2015 | RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr. and MICHAEL WINES

Posted on 04/04/2015 8:28:04 AM PDT by rktman

Many scientists disagree. They say those quakes, and thousands of others before and since, are mainly the work of humans, caused by wells used to bury vast amounts of wastewater from oil and gas exploration deep in the earth near fault zones. And they warn that continuing to entomb such huge quantities risks more dangerous tremors — if not here, then elsewhere in the state’s sprawling well fields.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheories; earthquakes; energy; energyprices; eviloil; fracking; junkscience; kochbros; necessarilyskyrocket; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; nyslimes; obama; oklahoma
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To: thackney

Possibly .22 Win Mag rounds, but I still suspect those .44 mags.


21 posted on 04/04/2015 9:19:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: thackney

If you shoot at the sun with a .50 caliber handgun, there is about a 10% chance you can put it out.


22 posted on 04/04/2015 9:20:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: rktman

Good grief ... there are fault lines in OK just as there are in TX ... some of them connected. TX fault lines have been very active around Irving ... not much frac’ing going on there. It’s natural. These anti-oil folks need to just shut up because they’re making themselves sound dumb.


23 posted on 04/04/2015 9:32:26 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: rktman

Anybody that watches the quake lists periodically can see the cluster of quakes in the area; the start coincides with fracking, and the ongoing damage is undeniable. The extremes of stop fracking or ignore the plight of residents are no answers. In the rush to frack, I wonder what long-term problems we might be setting up by pumping waste back into the ground. Earthquakes might not be the only problem. Anyway, sure glad I don’t live there.


24 posted on 04/04/2015 9:34:15 AM PDT by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: al_c

Flaming faucets? Who knew? Chevy pick ups bursting in to flames from outboard fuel tanks thanks to some charges being properly placed. Gotta love the lsm. They would NEVER lie to us. There is no shortage of IPOS/SPOS/LPOS/SPOS who buy their spiel.


25 posted on 04/04/2015 9:52:47 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Reno89519

Hmmmm. 89519 sound pretty close to 89506. LOL! Any thermal activity near you?


26 posted on 04/04/2015 9:54:26 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: rktman

Another crisis the communist gov’t will not want to let go to waste.


27 posted on 04/04/2015 10:12:19 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Lazamataz

Those gun things are dangerous.


28 posted on 04/04/2015 10:33:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rktman

Wait, I have a better headline: “NY Times reporter failed basic high school American history.”

Just HOW much “fracking” and deep oil well drilling was going on before the New Madrid fault let loose in the mid 1800s with so much force it REVERSED the flow of the Mississippi river?

Repeat after me: “Post hoc, ergo propter hoc” so-called reasoning is no way to go through life, much less stupid - unless you want to wind up as a reporter at the NYT.


29 posted on 04/04/2015 11:00:53 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: Reno89519

They have only been doing hydro frac in the area for half a century before this.

I wonder how all those fault lines got in this area before hydro francs ever started?

I wonder why areas that have far more hydro frac and disposal injection do not have quakes?


30 posted on 04/04/2015 11:09:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Sometimes it is injected back at the edges of the same producing reservoir for enhanced oil recovery. That sweeps more fluid from the edges to the producing well, carrying with the water more oil.

And that is an excellent use of the water as there is no net gain in reservoir fluids.

Maybe the solution is more injection wells spaced out. This started happening with an uptick in disposal volume. At the volumes being injected now, there clearly is an effect.

31 posted on 04/04/2015 11:56:52 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

We don’t agree on the clarity.


32 posted on 04/04/2015 12:00:03 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rktman; et al

Just Chicken Little in a bit of wilding.....


33 posted on 04/04/2015 12:53:23 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

And cell phones cause brain cancer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/opinion/global/the-facts-on-fracking.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/g161/top-10-myths-about-natural-gas-drilling-6386593/
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/411381/myth-making-about-fracking-texas-tremors-kevin-d-williamson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3275016/posts


34 posted on 04/04/2015 1:28:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: thackney

I am typically a skeptic of these claims. But IMO there is a connection. Your mileage and opinion may vary.


35 posted on 04/04/2015 3:58:22 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: thackney

I think they are injecting into very old fault zones in that part of Oklahoma and that is why injection is different there.


36 posted on 04/04/2015 4:02:48 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: thackney
Seriously, these maps aren't some AGW computer model hooey not supported by observations. These are actual quakes.

Oklahoma quake maps by year

37 posted on 04/04/2015 4:07:40 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Seriously, hydraulic fracturing and waste water disposal started a several decades earlier in that area.


38 posted on 04/05/2015 5:14:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rktman

I think it is the vibration from all of those wind generators in western oklahoma. :)


39 posted on 04/05/2015 5:18:09 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: dirtboy
Geologist: History shows Oklahoma earthquakes not new phenomenon
http://newsok.com/geologist-history-shows-oklahoma-earthquakes-not-new-phenomenon/article/4983503

Brown found a similar earthquake outbreak in the 1950s, when Oklahoma did not have equipment to properly measure seismic activity.

He also said those quakes may have been related to activity around the world, noting a similar spike in massive earthquakes worldwide since 2002.


40 posted on 04/05/2015 5:27:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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