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The rush to humiliate the poor (Milbank upset about EBT reform)
washingtonpost.com ^ | 4/7/15 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 04/08/2015 5:53:55 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: goldstategop
There is fraud but Republicans have no business playing food police.

And the government has no business giving people free money to buy whatever food they want, but it happens anyway.

And keep his nose out of other people’s shopping decisions. I hate fascist bullies, whether they’re on the Left or on the Right.
I don’t like government managing my personal life for me. We have enough government micromanaging in this country already.


How is this fascist behavior? I'm guessing you have no problems with all the government strings attached to highway funds and education money, so why would you have a problem with limitations on free food money? This isn't the government controlling any businesses, this is the government giving out free money (confiscated from the taxpayers) and simply saying you can't spend it on certain things. If I'm going to be giving anything away for free, there's no reason I can't set limits on the use of the free stuff. Or, they don't have to accept it.
41 posted on 04/08/2015 6:22:45 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Boogieman

Then don’t complain when Michelle Obama tells your middle class kids what to eat.

Its the public’s money, its the government’s business.


42 posted on 04/08/2015 6:23:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
It's not a matter of diet. It's a matter of buying non-essentials.

My mother was a supermarket cashier back in the 1950s and 60s. She used to tell tales of people with food stamps coming through the checkout with carts full of top-of-the-line porterhouse and delmonico steaks. Meanwhile, my dad was working for the railroad, making maybe $10 or so an hour, and we were eating hamburger. And my parents’ tax dollars were paying for those fancy steaks. Does that seem right to you?

43 posted on 04/08/2015 6:23:18 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: DoodleDawg

I have seen entire families show up with several carts of food, including loaded with meats. Every female in the bunch will have an EBT card and none of them will speak English.


44 posted on 04/08/2015 6:25:18 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: Svartalfiar

Government strings on other programs set standards. But you want restrictions.

If you want people to conform to certain standards its reasonable, but carving out exceptions here and there to them isn’t.

All based on anecdotal observations of individual behavior that may not be universally true.


45 posted on 04/08/2015 6:26:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
No one is eager to abolish it.

I am, lol

46 posted on 04/08/2015 6:26:20 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: goldstategop
Sorry but you can’t purchase alcohol with EBT.

Read my post again. Very slowly. I bolded it to help you out:

I guess then that it is actually a gift card, since I see people buying $8.99 6 packs of microbrew with cash and their food with EBT

47 posted on 04/08/2015 6:26:25 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: fatnotlazy

That is exactly the point that the left will avoid addressing at all costs.

It’s a big loser for them to try to argue that that situation is what “should be”.

Of course, this “shaming” is why they INSIST that the gov’t be involved in charity. A private charity MUST, pretty much by definition, “judge” the recipients as worthy or needy and not wasting the resources of the charity.

Gov’t doesn’t have to worry about waste and fraud.
They just stick their guns in productive people’s faces and demand more.


48 posted on 04/08/2015 6:26:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sauropod

“I work 12+ hour days most days. It’s disheartening to see what I see almost every day.”

I’m with you man. I work every day, and sometimes I stop by the grocery store down the street from my workplace to grab something for lunch.

Invariably, the place is packed with people who obviously have no jobs, buying carts piled with junk and luxury foods, and I have to wait behind them as nearly every one of them pays with EBT cards. It’s been this way for years and I’m damn sick of it.


49 posted on 04/08/2015 6:27:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: fatnotlazy

Show me one poor person you know personally that you’ve been to their home who dines on filet mignon and king crab.

And seafood and steak is hardly the stuff of a price fixe gourmet restaurant.


50 posted on 04/08/2015 6:28:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Obviously by your comment you think you are entitled to steak and lobster on someone else’s dime.


51 posted on 04/08/2015 6:28:58 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: goldstategop

“How someone lives their life isn’t for you to decide.”

When we are subsidizing their lifestyle, then yes, it is our business.


52 posted on 04/08/2015 6:29:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Right Brother

EBT has some cash loaded on it as well.
So, they take their EBT to the ATM, get the cash, buy their microbrews.


53 posted on 04/08/2015 6:30:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Boogieman

I think goldstategop is an EBT card holder.


54 posted on 04/08/2015 6:31:17 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: DoodleDawg

I am just telling you what I see.

I can only assume they can somehow sell or transfer their alotment to others somehow.

So crack head shakela gets high, and hungry shneqwa gets extra money to buy steak.


55 posted on 04/08/2015 6:31:24 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: goldstategop

Well, then, if it doesn’t happen, then this restriction affects no one,

and will do no “harm” if passed.


56 posted on 04/08/2015 6:31:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: goldstategop

“People confuse EBT with welfare.”

EBT is a form of welfare, genius.

“a government program for poor or unemployed people that helps pay for their food, housing, medical costs, etc.”

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/welfare


57 posted on 04/08/2015 6:32:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: sauropod

Couldn’t agree more. That’s why I was/am PO’d.


58 posted on 04/08/2015 6:32:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There is some cash loaded on the EBT card.


59 posted on 04/08/2015 6:32:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cotton1706

I say make the EBT cards apply only to food, and let the wookie decide what their dietary requirements are.


60 posted on 04/08/2015 6:33:42 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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