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The rush to humiliate the poor (Milbank upset about EBT reform)
washingtonpost.com ^ | 4/7/15 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 04/08/2015 5:53:55 AM PDT by cotton1706

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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yes. 2 dollars in food stamps for $1 in cash is the going rate I think.


61 posted on 04/08/2015 6:33:46 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: DoodleDawg

“How much food stamp money do you think people get?”

It varies by the number of beneficiaries in the household and other factors.


62 posted on 04/08/2015 6:35:58 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: goldstategop

This is an old article (2011), but it’s this sort of stuff that have people hoppin’ mad when they see how their hard-earned tax dollars are/have been used, under the guise of helping the poor:

http://humanevents.com/2011/01/15/gettin-fat-gamblin-and-cruisin-on-food-stamps/

A lot of the loopholes with EBT cards have been/are being closed, but the ‘government’ (state & Feds) haven’t exactly been responsible in the way OUR money has been distributed and it certainly goes to a lot of folks who should not be getting it. Having stood behind the two carts of a couple who were buying steaks, crab legs and a lot of other food that I myself could not afford, yet I was paying taxes that gave them the means to buy “luxury” food items, it pi$$ed me off royally. I’m still not over it. There are people who legitimately need help - no one should go hungry in this country, but the means to help them has been greatly perverted.


63 posted on 04/08/2015 6:36:09 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: goldstategop
Sorry but you can’t purchase alcohol with EBT.

True, which is why after paying for all their fancy food with the EBT, they pull out a roll of cash to cover the beer and cigarettes. Also, the post you are responding to mentions $8.99 6packs of craft beer. If you're on EBT, how would you be able to afford expensive beer, much less a bunch of beer anyway?
64 posted on 04/08/2015 6:36:26 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: cotton1706
You should all peruse the 4,000 comments on the Washington Post site. Liberal heads all over the nation are exploding.

After they pound the table with "RACISM!" a few hundred times, they move on to attacking our men and women in the military as leeches and welfare recipients.

65 posted on 04/08/2015 6:38:36 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: cotton1706

Anecdote:

When my x-wife and I were newlyweds, we were both in college and working part-time minimum wages jobs. We barely scraped by and watched very penny.

My wife and our next door neighbor became friends and one evening went grocery shopping together. When they returned, I was helping unload the groceries when I was horrified to see a big, expensive rump roast — something that we could in no way afford — in our bag. I told her we had to return it because it was too expensive.

She laughed and said that our neighbor had paid for it with her food stamps and given it to her because she felt sorry for us.


66 posted on 04/08/2015 6:40:02 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: goldstategop

Um, why should Michelle Obama get to tell middle class kids, who do not apply for federal school food discounts, what to eat, in local schools?

Please, enlighten us on how middle class kids buying food with their parent’s money is using the public’s money.


67 posted on 04/08/2015 6:40:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
It varies by the number of beneficiaries in the household and other factors.

I know. It's $4.50 a day on average per person. So 50+ pounds of steak would eat up 4+ peoples entire monthly allotement. No pun intended.

68 posted on 04/08/2015 6:42:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Pearls Before Swine
They didn't need EBT, but who can turn down low hanging fruit?

People with morals.

69 posted on 04/08/2015 6:43:23 AM PDT by petercooper ("How To Destroy The Country In 6 Short Years" by Barack Obama & the Democrats)
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To: Boogieman
The real reason liberals defend the EBT and all welfare programs is because they enable government to become 'god.' They don't want the real God to be involved with anything, especially their own personal lives.

From the beginning of our nation, it was traditionally Christian churches that administered charity and assistance to the poor and the needy. This act fulfilled God's will and commandments, and in the process, the Gospel message was spread to those who needed to hear it.

I have worked in some of the worst urban neighborhoods, distributing food though our church. We did it all on a shoestring budget and with food donations, and fed hundreds of people in a few hours.

Meanwhile, hundreds of millions of dollars in these same cities disappear every year by the liberals who run them, and what "assistance" they pass on to the poor is either nonexistent or negligible.

70 posted on 04/08/2015 6:44:11 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Boogieman

Here’s another unusual thing I have noticed that happens on the first of the month in grocery stores.

Obviously poor people with an entire basket (or two) filled with Tide liquid laundry detergent.

WTH?

That stuff is EXPENSIVE! and why would they need that much !?!

Is there some sort of drug they make from it?


71 posted on 04/08/2015 6:44:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Dear DoodleDawg,

Your prices are high! It isn't usually too hard to find steak for less than $10 per pound. But even so, I quickly googled and found in my state, the average food stamp benefit is $127 per month. A family of four could easily be receiving $500 per month in benefits. Some folks receive more.

Thus, a cart with 50 lbs. of [expensive] steak is plausible.


sitetest

72 posted on 04/08/2015 6:46:28 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

good question

maybe they export it for some reason?


73 posted on 04/08/2015 6:46:47 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: cotton1706

Let Milbank pay the difference


74 posted on 04/08/2015 6:47:20 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: goldstategop
How someone lives their life isn’t for you to decide.

This is true right up until someone starts spending someone else's money. If I loan or give someone else money, I can indeed demand terms and/or refuse them that money if they don't spend it the way I like. People who use EBT cards are, by definition, spending someone else's money, so, yes, how they spend that money is indeed for me (as a taxpayer) to decide.

If they don't like the terms, they are free to get money elsewhere.

75 posted on 04/08/2015 6:48:12 AM PDT by Amity
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To: TexasFreeper2009

http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1/

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/03/why-are-criminals-stealing-tide-detergent-and-using-it-for-money/254631/

Two articles that are related to your observation.


76 posted on 04/08/2015 6:48:34 AM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: DoodleDawg

“So 50+ pounds of steak would eat up 4+ peoples entire monthly allotement.”

Yes, exactly. Which is why when we see this stuff we can be certain that the purchasers are fraudsters who do not actually need the benefits. If they needed the assistance on a daily basis, then they would not be spending their entire allotment on luxury items as soon as the card is refilled.


77 posted on 04/08/2015 6:48:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TexasFreeper2009

No, they resell it for cash profit. Easily portable but expensive item that everyone needs, so it is basically a barter item for them.


78 posted on 04/08/2015 6:52:15 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cotton1706

I have personally seen EBT recipients buying steak, crab legs and every type of junk food, not once but numerous times. I also have often witnessed EBT recipients pay cash for beer, cigarettes and liquor and then using their EBT for soda and junk food


79 posted on 04/08/2015 6:52:44 AM PDT by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: goldstategop

By his own admission, he was abusing it. And as in this article, the guy was using EBT for what could be deemed non-essentials. I have no problem with WIC et al. Milk, veggies, bread, etc. But Twinkies? Nope.


80 posted on 04/08/2015 6:53:23 AM PDT by YourAdHere (I just took a big Obama.)
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