4th Grader Destroys Common Core By Asking School Board One Question

Mad World News ^ | March 29, 2015 | Dom the Conservative

[kaila]

I don’t believe in Common Core, however this protest about testing is ridiculous. Students have to learn that they will face tests all along their educational life. You need to take the SAT to get into college. The LSAT to get into law school, the MCAT to get into medical school. Not to mention all the tests that you need to take at the end of your course work. Children need to learn how to be test smart.Not allowing tests is a form of pampering.

[PapaBear3625]

Making kids sign a document promising not to talk to their parents about a test?

A minor cannot contract.

[MortMan]

Any agreement that an underage child must sign is null and void on the face of it - they cannot legally consent.

[TexasGator]

“A minor cannot contract. “

A minor CAN contract.

[TexasGator]

“Any agreement that an underage child must sign is null and void on the face of it - they cannot legally consent.”

Break out your law books.

[MrB]

Why not let parents decide how and what their kids are taught?

Because some parents are incompetent to do so.

The essence of liberalism:
someone poops their pants and we all gotta wear diapers

[The Toll]

I agree, the whole script sounded like the arguments made against No Child Left Behind by teachers that were no longer free to indoctrinate but had to teach to the test. I see nothing Common Core related in the text of the column.

[TigersEye]

Instead, she suggested that the painstaking test be divided up into three
smaller tests to determine how students are fairing throughout the year.

Dom the Conservative isn't faring very well.

OTOH Sydney is faring 100X better than Jebster Bush.

[kaila]

I am not too familiar with Common Core. I have seen a few of their math questions and they are ridiculous. I also think that the local school districts should determine the curriculum. I do read that most of the issue with Common Core/ no child left behind with parents is the testing involved.
Testing is a fact of life. My husband interviews college students for a very elite university that most Freepers hate. They look at SAT and ACT scores. The reason being is that there is grade inflation in school. Testing is the only way they can determine the quality of the student applicant.
Parents , instead of protesting the testing, should embrace it. The more tests a student takes, the better they are at taking them. When little Johnny freaks out when it is time to take his SAT, (because he has been “protected”) , and does poorly, then who are the parents going to blame?

[Mathews]

We home school... You'd be surprised what comes out my Boy's mouths. My ten year old told me yesterday that he feels a paradigm shift was coming in the steel industry due to the dumping of Chinese steel in our markets and then proceeded to tell me about the Tariffs Act of 1789 then about how we needed to start imposing Tariffs on China and other countries in order to rescue our manufacturing base... but, he says, the dunderheads in DC won't understand all of that... I kid you not. 20 seconds later he was deeply involved in an epic Star Wars battle with his action figures. Cmdr Fox rocked it as usual.

[MrB]

The reason for protesting the testing is, for example, the “right” answer to “Why is the earth warming” would be “CO2 produced by human activity”.

So, what’s going to be taught?

[Talisker]

A minor cannot contract.

No, but they can be mind-f****** into believing that the school and the state have equal or superior parental powers, and socially pressured into "voluntarily" taking an action that they believe cuts them off from and literally rejects their own parents. And records can be kept as to which students resisted and which didn't, for future government "processing" purposes.

This is insanely evil.

[sparklite2]

Before opinionating as to whether she is right or wrong, I’d have to know what she’s objecting to. Common core? Testing in general? The stress of preparing for tests? Testing all at once? Back in ancient times, we had tests every six weeks. Was that wrong?

[MortMan]

I'm not a lawyer. However, the principle that a school age child requires parental or guardian consent for all agreements with the school system is a long standing one.

From http://law.freeadvice.com/general_practice/contract_law/contract_valid.htm:

In all states, the age requirement to sign a contract is 18 years of age. A child under the age of 18 is considered a minor and is unable to sign a contract unless it is for essential items. Essential items include medicines, food, and medical services. Otherwise, the minor child must have a parent or guardian consent to the contract in order for it to be legally binding.

http://contract-law.laws.com/consideration/minors states that minors can legally contract if they are married or emancipated, but otherwise have extremely limited ability to contract.

Now, can you point out to me where there is an affirmative law on minor contracts that supports the confidentiality agreement in this case?

[Talisker]

A minor CAN contract. Break out your law books.

The word "minor" means "non compos mentis."

The ability to contract requires both authority and understanding - minors have neither.

Break out your law books. Start with Black's.

[kaila]

Math, reading, writing.
Protesting tests is going to make American children at a real disadvantage to Asia, which test their children.
This protest against testing is liberalism. Liberalism;We want everyone to be equal, and testing may show some students that they are not equal. Therefore, eliminating testing gets rid of all the hurt feelings that children may have.

[sparklite2]

I suspect you are right.

[polymuser]

So, the answer to “how do you know you’re right?” is “I just am”?

Yes, for a progressive/liberal/leftist or 14-year-old.

[Vermont Lt]

I think common core is stupid.

But I think pretentious little kids are tedious.

The issue is that the we require an improvement in the system, but we freak out when what they come up with fails.

And, if you think the school environment is anything like what you experienced as a student, think about how much other things have changed in that time.

I am not a teacher and I generally don’t like listening to them whine.

But the future is pretty bleak for kids in average schools.

[imardmd1]

You may be quite right in this. Note that in a later comment I spoke of “judicious testing,” (and that does not include Common Core methodology) to identify the efficacy of a local school system, not merely to evaluate the individual student’s preparation.