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Former Obama Pilot: TWA Flight 800 was not blown up by a faulty fuel tank.
NY Daily News ^ | 4/15/15 | Andrew Danziger

Posted on 04/16/2015 7:15:16 AM PDT by thefactor

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To: thefactor
"Yeah, the article talks about a wedding party that saw contrails from the water"

Those would be the people waving cameras around (for the wedding) who took multiple photos of this strange explosion in the sky. Those same photos which showed the rising exhaust trail. Funny how none seem to exist.

101 posted on 04/16/2015 9:07:31 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: DoodleDawg
"They don't ground airplanes. Not without specific reason."

Would crashing and going missing work for you?

102 posted on 04/16/2015 9:13:00 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: DugwayDuke

I know, but sometimes I like to try.

FReegards


103 posted on 04/16/2015 9:13:30 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Be professional, be courteous, and have a plan to kill everyone in the room.)
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To: thefactor

BIGGEST problem with this theory...terrorists don’t hide their actions so it then would seem to implicate a lone nutjob with a rocket launcher. Also highly unlikely.

Mr Danziger’s theory doesn’t pass my smell test.


104 posted on 04/16/2015 9:16:17 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Would crashing and going missing work for you?

It didn't in any of the examples I gave. None of them led to groundings.

105 posted on 04/16/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DugwayDuke

Right, because 670 people did not see what they saw.


106 posted on 04/16/2015 9:17:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: surrey
I had always thought Kallstrom was a straight shooter but his actions on this seemed out of character.

That was my initial assessment of Kallstrom as well ...
Even Rush Limbaugh ... who, in that era, carried a great deal of weight with conservatives (being one of the few prominent conservative media voices of the time), vouched for Kallstrom. They still are friends.
My opinion of Kallstrom is that he followed his marching orders ... cover up.

107 posted on 04/16/2015 9:18:17 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: AppyPappy
Regarding the witnesses( whose identity was apparently kept confidential by the FBI):

-Approximately 80 FBI agents conducted interviews with potential witnesses daily.[65] No verbatim records of the witness interviews were produced; instead, the agents who conducted the interviews wrote summaries that they then submitted.[64] Witnesses were not asked to review or correct the summaries.[64] Included in some of the witness summaries were drawings or diagrams of what the witness observed. Witnesses were not allowed to testify at the court hearings.[66][67]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800#Witness_interviews

108 posted on 04/16/2015 9:18:30 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The Republic is unlikely to survive the multitude of fools that twice elected Obama.)
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To: tbpiper
My uncle, who was an engineer with Republic and then Lockheed, screamed BS. That is good enough for me.
109 posted on 04/16/2015 9:20:57 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Due to the high price of ammo, no warning shot will be fired.)
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To: thefactor

I imagine there are many government secrets that are kept quiet for years and years. Maybe in 50 years the truth will come out.

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110 posted on 04/16/2015 9:23:55 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: thefactor

Total coverup.

I was living in Delaware at the time and recall a good many people on the news saying they saw something strike the plane and it appeared to them to have originated from sea or land but, their minds recall it flying from below and to the plane.

Now, go try to find these claims from news reports..


111 posted on 04/16/2015 9:25:15 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: thefactor

Paging Jack Cashill.


112 posted on 04/16/2015 9:25:18 AM PDT by meridenite
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To: thefactor

Unfortunately for the American people, the truth about flight 800 was buried.....Exactly the same way that the Kennedy asasination was buried. As long as we keep electing evil
bastards to public office, we will have more of the same.


113 posted on 04/16/2015 9:36:51 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: babygene
Not only that, but if they really thought it was a spark in the fuel tank, it would be very easy to rectify by just flooding the tank with nitrogen as the fuel was pumped out. That could be done with off the shelf components... A scuba regulator and a tank of nitrogen.

A spark in a fuel tank will, in most cases, NOT explode. In order for an explosion, you need a very specific ratio of fuel vapor to air, and a spark. Regular gasoline is only flammable between 4% and 7.6% in air. (Not sure on the different aviation fuels, but likely similar.) And with the evaporation controls, it's hard for an actual tank to get that low. The only way most fuel tanks nowadays could even have a chance of exploding is if they have a leak allowing more air to enter and lower that ratio. A small leak may get the ratio outside the tank to that point faster, but I doubt you'd get enough of an explosion to do that much damage.

Also, given the plane had just left the airport, their tanks were almost definitely full, meaning you would have extremely little room in the tank for fuel vapor/air, so even if it was the right ratio you would never get enough of an explosion to disintegrate the plane. (Near-empty tank could be different though.) And, liquid fuel CANNOT EXPLODE. It will burn, yes, but NOT explode.
114 posted on 04/16/2015 9:39:14 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Triple

James Sanders, post #78.


115 posted on 04/16/2015 9:39:54 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The Republic is unlikely to survive the multitude of fools that twice elected Obama.)
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To: Lazamataz

I saw the CIA labeled cartoon also. Since when the BOJINKA is that gang an accident investigating outfit?

And why the BOJINKA is the FBI running an accident investigation?


BTW folks, the Philippine Airlines Flight 434 plane was an ex-SAS airline Boeing 747 and had a different seating arrangement than what Ramzi Yousef calculated would put him above the center fuel tank. His Row 26 seat bomb blew a hole into a cargo bay but it still damned near brought the plane down.


116 posted on 04/16/2015 9:43:51 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: gop4lyf

Stole the name from Isaac Asimov, huh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightfall_%28Asimov_short_story_and_novel%29


117 posted on 04/16/2015 9:44:13 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The Republic is unlikely to survive the multitude of fools that twice elected Obama.)
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To: thefactor
Of course TWA Flt. 800 was shot down!
After the explosion, more than three dozen witnesses reported they’d seen contrails going up into the sky towards the plane; 18 of those people said they saw something coming up from the water, rising to meet the plane.

The FBI only summarized the interviews in its reports; the witnesses weren’t permitted to see what was written or to review the reports, and the NTSB only received summary reports in which all personal information was redacted. And maybe most importantly, the witnesses — there were more than 700 of them — weren’t permitted to testify.

Witnesses? We don' need no stinkin' witnesses! We have a CIA video!

TWA Flt. 800's "faulty wiring caused spark in the fuel tank" explanation is exactly what one should expect from people who tell you that Benghazi was caused by a video and vice versa.

But hey, "What difference, at this point, does it make?!?"

Clinton was re-elected and some early model B747s were grounded and "repaired".

Move On...

118 posted on 04/16/2015 9:46:03 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: Lazamataz

Wow, great catch.


119 posted on 04/16/2015 9:46:03 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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To: eastforker

But they did say they had a specific reason, a short in the fuel tank. They even recall automobiles when they have a specific reason that causes them to crash or endanger its occupants.

I have a cousin who worked as an electrical engineer at Boeing for 35 yrs. He says that the insulation around the probes in the fuel tank(the supposed cause of the explosion)could never have a crack in them. No rubbing, no chemical reaction against aviation fuel, and vibration under the location they were in, would take thousands of yrs.


120 posted on 04/16/2015 9:50:19 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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