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Former Obama pilot: TWA Flight 800 was not blown up by a faulty fuel tank; it was shot down.
NY Daily News ^ | 4-15-15 | Andrew Zanginger

Posted on 04/16/2015 10:55:24 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: Lower Deck

Was it ever determined if naval maneuvers were operating in the area? Were there no witnesses out there on the ocean? No interviews? Did any ship involved in that have surface to air capabilities? Did they look at the inventories to see if any missiles were missing?

They must have asked these questions.


41 posted on 04/16/2015 11:56:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bmwcyle

Check out that photo again.

It nails him IMO.


42 posted on 04/16/2015 12:00:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I never understood WHY they covered it up. Seeing how the country went hysterical after 9/11, it may have been justified.


43 posted on 04/16/2015 12:05:56 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: InterceptPoint; dragnet2
I think (correct me if I’m wrong) that TWA 800 came along just before Jim Robinson decided to start up an interesting little website called FreeRepublic.com

Actually, there was much discussion about the event here on FR. An ex-user named Michael Rivero presented opinions that were much-criticized. Take a look here for some of those threads.

44 posted on 04/16/2015 12:07:22 PM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
I never understood WHY they covered it up

Clinton was facing re-election in 4 months. He didn't want to appear weak or be shown to have had a massive intelligence failure. If nothing else, the Dole campaign or maybe Perot would have hammered him about it enough to cost him the election.

It was just easier to invent some zoom climb bullshit and blame it on a mechanical failure instead of Clinton getting painted as weak on security.

45 posted on 04/16/2015 12:13:35 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: wideminded
Drink the Kool-Aid much? Who do you think recovered the plane? Gee, it wasn't the people that were covering up what actually happened, was it?

For those that don't know, Jack Cashill and James Sanders wrote a very good book on all this: First Strike

46 posted on 04/16/2015 12:15:41 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue (Remember- allah is the Charles Manson of deities, and mohammed is his Tex Watson. - LysolMotorola)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The radar evidence is irrefutable.

There are ‘targets’ diverting from the aircraft vector at Mach speeds...only possible from high-order detonation, be it missile warhead or otherwise, not a GD low-order fuel-vapor explosion.

Combined with the witness statements, the question comes to mind,

“Why lie?”

Discussing/debating possible theories/answers to clearly fabricated reports are not ‘conspiracy-theory’, but the very foundation of this country, in particular seeking the actual truth of the matter DESPITE the coverup...

But we’ll never know if this was covered up to keep a ‘terrorist attack’ off Billy’s rap sheet...’cause Billy’s got a shot to get back into the WH as 2nd-fiddle.

But the very idea that dozens, if not hundreds, of government employees between multiple departments, covered up the actual cause of that ‘disaster’ concerns me greatly. That and the fact that not a single one of them has come forward to corroborate the charges of others (they must value their federal pensions more than the Constitution; for that they should be all imprisoned, imho).


47 posted on 04/16/2015 12:42:43 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: cuban leaf

One thing I didn’t mention is that, unsurprisingly, the Clinton administration were keen to squash any talk of domestic-based terrorism after the first WTC truck bomb.

Politics uber alles!


48 posted on 04/16/2015 12:44:32 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: DoughtyOne

He’s Rush’s buddy so Rush won’t touch the topic.


49 posted on 04/16/2015 12:45:23 PM PDT by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I have heard pilots refer to the "fuel tank explosion" as a sardonic joke.

As a Myth Buster watcher, I am amazed at the perfect conditions needed to explode gas inside a close area. There has to be the right Oxygen levels, circulation and even obstructions (better mix the Oxygen and Gas). I am sure jet fuel different than propane or natural gas, but did the NTSB ever replicate the conditions need to explode the tanks?

50 posted on 04/16/2015 12:47:02 PM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: cuban leaf

Add Vince Foster and I’m with you.


51 posted on 04/16/2015 12:47:11 PM PDT by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3279780/posts


52 posted on 04/16/2015 12:49:23 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: mcshot

Oh, I forgot about that one. Absolutely!


53 posted on 04/16/2015 12:53:35 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: mcshot

And, come to think of it, Oklahoma City. Did they ever find the man of middle eastern descent? And what is with trying to escape in a car with no plates?


54 posted on 04/16/2015 12:54:30 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Lower Deck

Actually there are several systems for subs to launch surface to air missiles. And it is certainly possible that one was being tested.... however terrorism is more likely.


55 posted on 04/16/2015 1:05:18 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
Actually there are several systems for subs to launch surface to air missiles. And it is certainly possible that one was being tested....

Wouldn't the possibility that a surface-to-air missile system was being tested inshore, adjacent to the flight path out of JFK, be essentially...zero?

56 posted on 04/16/2015 1:08:08 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Forgotten Amendments

never understood WHY they covered it up. Seeing how the country went hysterical after 9/11, it may have been justified.

...ahhh, really? justified to make up a story and lie about innocent civilian deaths ? There was no hysteria after 9/11.... maybe they miss you over at DU? No conservative would justify dishonesty to win an election just cause the BentOne didn’t want to have another scandal over security to explain, and was too much of a coward to retaliate if it was a foreign power and not a naval exercise accident...

ymmv


57 posted on 04/16/2015 1:09:08 PM PDT by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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To: 11th Commandment; hinckley buzzard

Did some research, and there was a 1/3 replica tank made and exploded. Never test actual 747 wire to test the high voltage jump theory. So as MB says- Plausible.


58 posted on 04/16/2015 1:09:19 PM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: cuban leaf

I’m about 2.75.

Unless you want to add in Mena, Benghazi, the BC (and the “story” of 0vomit in general), and probably a few others I don’t recall at the moment. Interesting that all of these are tied to democrats and many to the Clintons.


59 posted on 04/16/2015 1:14:57 PM PDT by generally
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To: mcshot

You know, I never understood Rush’s stance on that.

I don’t always agree with Rush, but this was one of his most flagrant mistakes IMO.


60 posted on 04/16/2015 1:20:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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