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300 US Troops In Ukraine To Train Ukrainian Forces: US Army
AFP ^ | April 17, 2015

Posted on 04/17/2015 2:58:37 AM PDT by Strategy

About 300 US paratroopers have arrived in Ukraine to train the Ukrainian National Guard which is fighting pro-Russian rebels in the east, the US army said in a statement.

The troops from the 173rd Airborne Brigade arrived on Tuesday and Wednesday in Yavoriv, western Ukraine, to spend six months training three battalions of Ukrainian troops, said the statement dated Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at afp.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; donetsk; military; obama; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
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To: HLPhat

Oh piss off you Russkie tool...Russia invaded Ukraine all on it’s own and there are dead Ukrainians all over east Ukraine to remind us of it. Your bs won’t work with Freepers ...minus the handful of other surrender monkeys and Pootie-lovers here.

Russia will keep expanding it’s empire till stopped and you and the other Obamaboys are what holds us back till it will be far harder, far more costly and dangerous. Piss on the lot of you and Obama.


121 posted on 04/17/2015 6:40:29 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: ansel12

HLPhat is Valerie Jarrett online persona by the sounds of “it”.


122 posted on 04/17/2015 6:43:20 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

Wave to the backside of my lifted kilt and inhale the vapors.

Evidently you trust Comrade Chairman Obama to escalate in America’s best interest.

I don’t.


123 posted on 04/17/2015 8:38:24 PM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Should be pretty safe. They are 800 miles west by road from Donetsk right next to Ukraine-Polish border. Ukraine is almost as big as Texas and Russians are in a small area at the east.


124 posted on 04/17/2015 11:00:22 PM PDT by Krosan
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To: ansel12; McGruff
Reagan knew how to deal with Russia...

Then perhaps you'd be interested in what Reagan's Ambassador to Russia Jack Matlock has to say about the roots of the current situation.

Vladi­mir Putin was elected in 2000 and initially followed a pro-Western orientation. When terrorists attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, he was the first foreign leader to call and offer support. He cooperated with the United States when it invaded Afghanistan, and he voluntarily removed Russian bases from Cuba and Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam.

What did he get in return? Some meaningless praise from President George W. Bush, who then delivered the diplomatic equivalent of swift kicks to the groin: further expansion of NATO in the Baltics and the Balkans, and plans for American bases there; withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty; invasion of Iraq without U.N. Security Council approval; overt participation in the “color revolutions” in Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan; and then, probing some of the firmest red lines any Russian leader would draw, talk of taking Georgia and Ukraine into NATO.Americans, heritors of the Monroe Doctrine, should have understood that Russia would be hypersensitive to foreign-dominated military alliances approaching or touching its borders.

125 posted on 04/18/2015 5:16:16 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: McGruff; ansel12
Why don’t you hop on a plane and go over there and kill all the Russians you see instead of volunteering other people’s sons and daughters do it.

Well said. The US has been fighting in wars all over the globe for decades, with no tangible results. Meanwhile the care for our returning soldiers spirals downward.

Its a further abuse of our professional military to continue this practice in eastern Europe.

126 posted on 04/18/2015 5:28:42 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: PatHimself
There are some people who have a hard time readjusting to civilian life, life without a guaranteed government paycheck.

There are lots of recent veterans suffering from both physical and mental trauma from their time in service. The Veterans Administration has done a terrible job in meeting the needs of these men and women, much less the ongoing care of veterans generally.

127 posted on 04/18/2015 5:40:08 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Not only is that one of the most childish and silly things to say in national defense issues, but post 68 covers it.

Are you a military veteran?


128 posted on 04/18/2015 8:53:26 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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To: mac_truck

You want to reinforce the insult to military service and veterans, as damaged people who were basically wanting guaranteed government checks and who still are patriotic because they are probably making money off of war?


129 posted on 04/18/2015 8:55:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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To: mac_truck

I’m interested in Reagan, in fact I was in that NATO military under Reagan, he was tough as nails.

You are clearly more of an Obama man of the situation, except that you think that Obama is TOO Reagan like.

So you are somewhere to the left of Obama and Carter on Russia.


130 posted on 04/18/2015 8:57:55 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarian social liberalism makes conservative small limited government & low taxes impossible.)
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To: ansel12
>>I’m interested in Reagan

It's very unfortunate that subsequent administrations failed to capitalize on, and squandered, the opportunity Reagan created.

Apollo-Soyuz! anybody?

131 posted on 04/18/2015 10:17:53 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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To: Vaquero
>>He is a criminal poser.

He is the protege of Zbigniew Brzenski.

A vile serpent who bites for the pleasure of biting and producing agony whilst adoring himself in the mirror of his craftsmanship.

132 posted on 04/18/2015 10:25:45 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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To: mac_truck

>>what Reagan’s Ambassador to Russia Jack Matlock
>>has to say about the roots of the current situation.

Thanks for sharing that.


133 posted on 04/18/2015 10:30:06 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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To: HLPhat

Yes...there are a number of old foreign policy hands from that era who are quite dismayed with the way the United States conducts itself in the world these days.


134 posted on 04/18/2015 1:28:15 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Strategy; Fred Nerks

These 300 are likely Obama’s hand selected agent provocateurs.

That would not surprise me in the least because ISIS is supported by the Saudi Royal family. Who do you think is buying ISIS’s oil?

They will likly send intel to ISIS, not fake intel, real time intel. Keep the Iranians at bay.


135 posted on 04/18/2015 2:29:31 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7
... ISIS is supported by the Saudi Royal family...

something just doesn't hang together there, ISIS plans to destroy the kabah in Mecca, Islam's most revered idolatry object, the black rock/meteor they worship...which they circle seven times (as did the comet the rock fell from)and have the 'royal' family of Saud in their sights for elimination, as did Osama. If ISIS has support in Saudi Arabia it must be from the Wahab clan, in other words, the Muslim Brotherhood. The thousands of perfumed princes of the 'royal' house of Saud have much to fear from ISIS which plans to annihilate them.

Nothing is as it seems at first glance in the middle east.

136 posted on 04/18/2015 3:16:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: mac_truck
Its a further abuse of our professional military to continue this practice in eastern Europe.

Considering how shifting and propagandist most of your opinions are when it comes to Russia, and how hypocritical this comes off, I suspect the truth is you hate the guts of our country and our veterans and are making comments like this as just another lie you thought up on the fly.

137 posted on 04/19/2015 3:29:48 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Fred Nerks

This article is a pretty good summary:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iraq-crisis-how-saudi-arabia-helped-isis-take-over-the-north-of-the-country-9602312.html

But the Saudis who support Isis still remain anonymous. I believe that privately, Sauds are buying ISIS oil at a discount and selling it for top dollar.


138 posted on 04/19/2015 12:29:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7
They are so good at deception, they deceive each other and themselves...

...But there has always been a second theme to Saudi policy towards al-Qa'ida type jihadis, contradicting Prince Bandar's approach and seeing jihadis as a mortal threat to the Kingdom. Dearlove illustrates this attitude by relating how, soon after 9/11, he visited the Saudi capital Riyadh with Tony Blair.

He remembers the then head of Saudi General Intelligence "literally shouting at me across his office: '9/11 is a mere pinprick on the West. In the medium term, it is nothing more than a series of personal tragedies. What these terrorists want is to destroy the House of Saud and remake the Middle East.'" In the event, Saudi Arabia adopted both policies, encouraging the jihadis as a useful tool of Saudi anti-Shia influence abroad but suppressing them at home as a threat to the status quo. It is this dual policy that has fallen apart over the last year...

139 posted on 04/19/2015 3:54:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Saudi Arabia adopted both policies, encouraging the jihadis as a useful tool of Saudi anti-Shia influence abroad but suppressing them at home as a threat to the status quo. It is this dual policy that has fallen apart over the last year...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Agreed. The broadcast beheadings inflamed the West , yet Obama and the Saudis wanted to continue to 2 prong policy.

Obama is showing his true identity as a fascist.And the Obama non engagement with ISIS policy is now a 2016 election issue.The Saudis are now out of the box.....waging a war in Yemen, forcing the US Aircraft Carrier, USS Theodore Roosevelt( which will likely never see much use in blockading Iran ships of ordinance supply for the Houthis,its all just a show for the 5 o’clock news.)

The USA will allow the Iranians to supply the Houthis. Watch it happen. I believe that Obama is playing games with the Saudis, counselling them in public for moderation, while Yemen turns radical Shia....something Obama wants, just like he wanted it in Iraq, Kenya ( in 2007), Sudan and Libya.Obama did not get it in Egypt, much to his chagrin, his Muslim Brotherhood man Morsi was sentenced to 20 years yesterday.

Obama is a true psychopomp, fiddling with the strings of world destiny based on his own personal ideology.He has no
record of work in forwarding America’s national interest anywhere in the world, because he regards Americas police work internationally as neocolonialism.


140 posted on 04/21/2015 11:29:28 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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