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Polls: Americans Are Fed Up with Immigration
TeaParty.org ^ | APRIL 21, 2015

Posted on 04/22/2015 8:38:17 AM PDT by xzins

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To: napscoordinator

The majority of the political class, at the behest of the majority of the business class, want to effectively turn our country into mexico, or more likely china.

Mexico has their socialist backed oligarchy, with a few powerful families basically controlling the entire economy, and pushing off all of the dirt poor indians on the gringos in el norte. And then chinese, who have communist enforced oligarchy, with all of industry owned by the government, and the politburo and more equal class get to enjoy the spoils, while picking a few winners to deal with and fool the capitalists in the west.


21 posted on 04/22/2015 9:07:16 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: kabar
It is about ILLEGAL O’ is just getting his
BUM KISSED so that QUASI LEGALS can come/be brought in.
22 posted on 04/22/2015 9:08:29 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: kabar
Really.

We know how to make effective changes to those laws. I may not like them, but they are followed and changes go through the normal process.

What we really have problems with is the ILLEGAL immigrants.

There are NO controlling laws by definition. That I want fixed first.

Not everyone cares about your hobby horse of legal immigration, but most all Americans, including my LEGAL neighbor want the illegal immigration stopped.

/johnny

23 posted on 04/22/2015 9:12:58 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: napscoordinator
Do you know why legal immigration was not that high during the Carter years? First, the 1965 Immigration Act was just beginning to make itself felt as the numbers and limits were raised over subsequent administrations. Bush 41 was the worst one raising the caps to almost double. In 1970 there were 9.7 million foreign born in this country; today it is 41.5 million.

1965

The national origins quota system was abolished. But still maintained was the principle of numerical restriction by establishing 170,000 Hemispheric and 20,000 per country ceilings and a seven-category preference system (favoring close relatives of U.S. citizens and permanent resident aliens, those with needed occupational skills, and refugees) for the Eastern Hemisphere and a separate 120,000 ceiling for the Western Hemisphere.

1976

The 20,000 per-country immigration ceilings and the preference system became applied to Western-Hemisphere countries. The separate Hemispheric ceilings were maintained.

1978

The separate ceilings for Eastern and Western Hemispheric immigration were combined into one world-wide limit of 290,000.

1980

The Refugee Act removed refugees as a preference category and established clear criteria and procedures for their admission. It also reduced the world-wide ceiling for immigrants from 290,000 to 270,000.

1986

The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) was a comprehensive reform effort. It (1) legalized aliens who had resided in the United States in an unlawful status since January 1, 1982, (2) established sanctions prohibiting employers from hiring, recruiting, ar referring for a fee aliens known to be unauthorized to work in the United States, (3) created a new classification of temporary agricultural worker and provided for the legalization of certain such workers; and (4) established a visa waiver pilot program allowing the admission of certain nonimmigrants without visas. Separate legislation stipulated that the status of immigrants whose status was based on a marriage be conditional for two years, and that they must apply for permanent status within 90 days after their second year anniversary.

1989

A bill adjusted from temporary to permanent status certain nonimmigrants who were employed in the United States as registered nurses for at least three years and met established certification standards.

1990

Comprehensive immigration legislation provided for (1) increased total immigration under an overall flexible cap of 675,000 immigrants beginning in fiscal year 1995, preceded by a 700,000 level during fiscal years 1992 through 1994, (2) created separate admission categories for family-sponsored, employment-based, and diversity immigrants, (3) revised all grounds for exclusion and deportation, significantly rewriting the political and ideological grounds and repealing some grounds for exclusion, (4) authorized the Attorney General to grant temporary protected status to undocumented alien nationals of designated countries subject to armed conflict or natural disasters, and designated such status for Salvadorans, (5) revised and established new nonimmigrant admission categories, (6) revised and extended through fiscal year 1994 the Visa Waiver Program, (7) revised naturalization authority and requirements, and (8) revised enforcement activities.

24 posted on 04/22/2015 9:14:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I am worried by the legal immigrants who are also gaming the system and worse yet, can vote legally.


25 posted on 04/22/2015 9:15:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Table 6 is why these Third Worlders are telling Uncle Sap that they are refugees, when they are parasites sucking the Bucks out of our ridiculous welfare system. Anything to get them from the welfare rolls to the Democrat voter rolls.


26 posted on 04/22/2015 9:20:41 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: xzins

Legal/Illegal/H1B’s are an intentional act to flood our country with people that care nothing, know nothing of our constitution in an effort to marginalize our founding principles and our sacred documents.

If ya think we are not at war in this country, sadly you’d be very naïve.

Our way of life, our liberties are under assault. We have been “lawed up” so any citizen that attempts to stand for America will be wisked away or shot.

Sounds like conspiracy? Just look at the evidence. It’s all around us.

http://www.heritage.org/


27 posted on 04/22/2015 9:25:29 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: kabar
Over 30 states have voting ID laws in effect now. Those laws have NOT been overturned by courts.

There are some states that have voter ID laws overturned. Most of those States were party to the Consent Decree by the DOJ.

To hear people on FR talk, there is no control on voting.

There is.

/johnny

28 posted on 04/22/2015 9:25:57 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: xzins; All
Sixty percent of Americans are displeased with the current levels of immigration, according to Gallup—a decline from 72 percent in 2008, when the country plunged into a recession, but an increase of six percent from 2014

Guess what? The republicrats didn't give a f@*k what the public thought about immigration in 2008, they didn't give a rats a*s*s what people thought about it in 2014, and they don't give a d*am@ now!
29 posted on 04/22/2015 9:26:38 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: JRandomFreeper
We know how to make effective changes to those laws. I may not like them, but they are followed and changes go through the normal process.

So why aren't those changes being made? Do you support reduced legal immigration from the current 1.1 million a year? Who is speaking out in Congress about reducing legal immigration except for a handful of Reps led by Jeff Sessions? Each year that passes means another 1.1 million enter this country changing the demographics of the country forever. Conservatism will be strangulated. We are importing hundreds of thousands of future Dem voters every year. This has electoral consequences now and in the future.

What we really have problems with is the ILLEGAL immigrants.

So we have laws on legal immigration that can be fixed, but how good are these laws as they pertain to illegal aliens if they are not being enforced or they are overruled by executive fiat? The numbers of legal immigrants are three times those of the lawbreakers. They are having a major impact on our economy, demographics, and welfare system. CA has the demographics America will have in 2050.

Not everyone cares about your hobby horse of legal immigration, but most all Americans, including my LEGAL neighbor want the illegal immigration stopped.

The overwhelming majority of Americans want legal immigration reduced. That is the point of this article.

You are part of the problem because you fail to understand the massive impact legal immigration is having on this country. It has to become an acceptable subject for discussion in public fora like it is in the UK and the rest of Europe. This fixation with illegal aliens misses the larger issue of immigration. We could stop illegal immigration tomorrow and the devastating impact of legal immigration will continue It is far more insidious because it is legal and most Americans have been brainwashed (it is changing) to believe that legal immigration is an unalloyed good.

30 posted on 04/22/2015 9:28:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: JRandomFreeper

The laws are being fought by the Dems and the DOJ. And what good are the laws if the people on the ground are not enforcing them? Voter fraud exists big time regardless of these laws. I have worked as a poll watcher and election officer. If you think that voter ID laws can stop voter fraud in Detroit, Philadelphia, or any other major urban center, you are sadly mistaken. And now that Obama is issuing the lawbreakers SSN’s and more and more states are issuing them driver’s licenses, the controls in the Voter ID laws are being undermined.


31 posted on 04/22/2015 9:32:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Me, and lots of people like me are much more concerned by illegal immigration than legal immigration.

And focusing on legal immigration at this time is completely inappropriate and distracts from illegal immigration.

If you feel the need to muddy the waters, go ahead.

I'll keep sending time and money to Cruz.

/johnny

32 posted on 04/22/2015 9:34:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; kabar

Both systems are broken, but the only tolerable method for anyone to enter this country is via legal immigration. Without an enforced entry system, this nation is not sovereign for long.


33 posted on 04/22/2015 9:42:52 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dfwgator
I am fed up with ILLEGAL Immigration.

The "legality" of immigration is the LEAST important part of it.

The most important factors are the source population and the quantity.

Bringing in hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis, Egyptians, Somalis and other Muslims each year on completely legal family-reunification visas is a terrible practice, even though these Jihad carriers are going through all the "right" steps and arrive with all their papers in order. Their admission, though totally legal, guarantees the growth of terrorism and other Islamic maladies in our homeland. Similarly, the import of large numbers of Mexicans, Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and Hondurans wreaks havoc on our schools, communities and the Electoral College, whether or not they have a shiny Green Card in their wallet.

On the other hand, the prospect of a million Polish or Irish folks jumping their tourist visas and staying on as illegal aliens bothers me little. They, or at least their kids, will, for the most part, eventually become part of the fabric of American exceptionalism, not grievance-harboring antagonists to it.

34 posted on 04/22/2015 9:44:46 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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35 posted on 04/22/2015 9:47:57 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Dagnabitt
During the election, muddying the waters with inappropriate focus on legal immigration just marginalizes you.

Right now, LEGAL immigration isn't as important as ILLEGAL immigration for voters.

But you keep on focusing on inappropriate stuff.

I'll keep sending time and money to Cruz.

/johnny

36 posted on 04/22/2015 10:05:09 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I don't really trust Walker (or any other politician on this issue), but at least in terms of Election 2016 policy statements on immigration, he's now in the lead.

The "Illegal bad /Legal good" mantra GOP candidates spout to soften their (primary-season) rhetoric on immigration is nonsense and needs to go. It's like saying that smoking is safe and healthy as long as the cigarettes are "legal" with tax-stamps.

37 posted on 04/22/2015 10:10:52 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: zzeeman

Precisely.


38 posted on 04/22/2015 10:14:40 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Lord God help us.)
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To: kabar

Thank you for your posts. We need a moratorium on ALL immigration, while working on getting rid of the illegals already here, building the danged fence, getting rid of the anchor baby law, punishing employers of illegals, etc. The media and the libs will be in hysterics, but it MUST be done.


39 posted on 04/22/2015 10:17:17 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: JRandomFreeper
As I said, you are part of the problem, not the solution. If you any interest at all in understanding the context of legal immigration and how it impacts the vision and values of our Founders along with Conservatism, I offer a link the Phyllis Schlafly's study, How Mass (Legal) Immigration Dooms a Conservative Republican Party

The data on the impact of legal immigration are overwhelming. But I guess you don't need no stinkin' facts.

And focusing on legal immigration at this time is completely inappropriate and distracts from illegal immigration.

It is the other way around. The GOPe has been using the distraction of illegal immigration and the border to make it seem that they are tough on immigration. In the meantime, they are responding to their corporate paymasters by keeping the flood of legal immigrants going and increasing the size of our guest worker programs. It used to be that we needed these immigrants to do jobs that Americans won't do. Now, we need them to do jobs Americans can't do. The Reps, including Cruz want to increase the number of skilled guest workers who will take jobs from American college graduates who are already saddled with massive student loans. If we had a labor shortage, wages would be going up not down. In fact we are importing hundreds of thosands of legal immigrants without a high school diploma,

If you feel the need to muddy the waters, go ahead. I'll keep sending time and money to Cruz.

Are you sure you are backing Cruz? You sound like a Jeb Bush/Karl Rove Republican. Certainly, your stance on legal immigration is the same. Why would you want to continue importing 1.1 million legal immigrants a year who will vote two to one Dem?

40 posted on 04/22/2015 10:20:39 AM PDT by kabar
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