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Crazy and not-so-crazy ideas for solving the California drought
dailyme.com ^ | April 22, 2015, 6:00 AM | Michael Casey

Posted on 04/22/2015 11:59:33 AM PDT by ckilmer

Crazy and not-so-crazy ideas for solving the California drought

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The dried up lake bed of Huntington Lake which is at only 30 percent capacity as a severe drought continues to affect California. MARK RALSTON/AFP/Getty Images

California Gov. Jerry Brown has sounded the alarm over the state's historic drought, warning that it will take "unprecedented actions" to solve the crisis.

That battle cry has produced a brainstorming session like no other - prompting celebrities, tech gurus, politicians and business leaders to offer a range of innovative and outlandish solutions for easing the dry stretch that is now in its fourth year and shows no sign of ending anytime soon.

Much of the talk has been about conserving water, plugging leaks and capturing runoff, highlighted to some degree in the state's five-year Water Action Plan.

The first-ever statewide water restrictions, aimed at reducing water usage 25 percent, will see 50 million square feet of lawns replaced with drought-resistant plants, restaurants offering drinking water only on demand, and perhaps even golf courses letting their lush greens go brown.

But water savings alone won't solve a problem of this size.

An analysis earlier this year from NASA satellite data concluded that the state would need 11 trillion gallons of water to recover from its dry spell. That's roughly equivalent to filling up Lake Mead, the nation's largest reservoir, one and a half times.

And the drought is only getting worse. With the El Nino weather pattern arriving too late and too weak to help replenish water in the region after record-low snowpack this winter, much of the West is in for another year of wildfires and more dry conditions.

As a result, the talk has turned to diversifying the state's water resources. To some degree, that has meant dusting off grandiose projects like piping in water from out of state or expanding on technologies that convert wastewater or saltwater into clean water that could be used for industrial, agriculture or even drinking purposes.

Pipe dreams

Some voices have revived talk that dates back the late 1980s of building a pipeline to deliver water from out of state. Then, it was water from Alaska. Now, it's William Shatner of Star Trek fame proposing to raise $30 billion for plan to pipe water from Seattle.

Never mind that much of the state of Washington is also in the grips of drought.

"I want $30 billion...to build a pipeline like the Alaska pipeline," he told Yahoo Tech. "Say, from Seattle -- a place where there's a lot of water. There's too much water. How bad would it be to get a large, 4-foot pipeline, keep it above ground - because if it leaks, you're irrigating!"

Nancy Vogel, a spokesperson for the California Department of Water Resources, said neither Shatner's plan nor anything like it is actually being considered.

"It would be cost prohibitive," Vogel told CBS News. "Even if you could clear the environmental and legal hurdles, it runs counter to the state's policy of reducing our reliance on imported water. We are not looking to take water from the Great Lakes, Pacific Northwest or Alaska."

The state is, however, moving ahead with a $25 billion Bay Delta Conservation Plan that includes the construction of two tunnels that would pump water from Northern California to the southern part of the state.

Desalination technology

Reuse and desalination technologies seem to be gaining more traction, with desalination garnering the most headlines of late. Technology that converts seawater into drinking water is standard fare in places like the Middle East where countries have little or no fresh water.

It has been slow to catch on in the United States, mostly due to the high cost and huge amounts of energy needed to run the plants. But the drought is making the technology more politically palatable in places like California.

Poseidon Water is one of those companies already taking advantage of the changing attitudes toward unorthodox sources of water. It expects to open the biggest desalination plant in the western hemisphere later this year in Carlsbad, Calif. and is on the verge of winning approval for a smaller plant in Huntington Beach.

"Carlsbad will be a game-changer," Poseidon's Vice President Scott Maloni said. The plant is expected to produce 50 million gallons of drinking water each day and supply up to 10 percent of San Diego County's water needs.

"It will open the door for desalination plants to be considered up and down the coast," he said.

Wastewater reuse

Another technology that could expand its reach in California is the reuse of everything from storm water to wastewater. Most of the projects so far involve treating the water for use in agriculture fields, cooling industrial processes or refilling groundwater aquifers.

"We are only scratching the surface of this incredible resource, which could address scarcity," Jon Freedman, vice president of government affairs for GE Water & Process Technologies, said of the technology, which he estimates produces up to 10 percent of California's water.

Among the 35 projects that GE Water has built in the state are one in American Canyon, where 3 million gallons of municipal wastewater each day is treated and used in area vineyards and golf courses. Another system in Redlands treats 6 million gallons of wastewater for use in cooling towers of a local power company, and still another in Oakley treats 4 million gallons, which is then piped into the San Joaquin River to help replenish the delta ecosystem.

The state has not yet gone as far as Singapore, which converts wastewater into drinking water called NEWater. Parched Wichita Falls, Texas, has also given "toilet to tap" recycling a try. And California could be next.

It is drawing up a framework for potable reuse of wastewater, and several municipalities are toying with the idea. San Diego is running a pilot project to test its feasibility, and millions of Orange County residents depend on drinking water that is treated and sent to an aquifer before being pumped through the taps.

Futuristic ideas

Still, with things so desperate, some are looking even further afield to technologies that might seem more at home in an episode of "The Jetsons."

One such proposal is something called atmospheric water generation. The technology literally strips moisture from the atmosphere, using a salt solution, and converts it into water.

"We could help dramatically with the California drought," said Abe Sher, the founder and CEO of Florida-based Aqua Sciences, which says it is in talks with California and several other drought-stricken states about deploying its technology.

Until now, the company's technology has been mostly used on a smaller scale to produce water, including at an oil facility in Saudi Arabia and after the 2010 Haiti earthquake. It also is in talks with Chinese officials to deploy its machines and is considering making units for home use.

"We could scale up the technology to produce millions of gallons a day," Sher told CBS News. "Our source is everywhere on the planet. Even in dry places, there is water in the atmosphere ... And it's actually better than bottled water."

Another futuristic approach comes courtesy of ionization.tech01-300x199.jpg

This is an artist rendering of the system that Rain on Request would use to produce water.
Rain on Request

The Florida-based company Rain on Request has developed a system featuring a 100-foot tower and 10 satellite towers 40 feet tall that it claims could induce rainfall within a 15-mile radius. The towers send a charge into the atmosphere, "creating a polarity that is conducive to rainfall," explains business development manager Larry Gitman. The system requires humidity in the atmosphere or a nearby water source to function.

The company says it could boost precipitation levels between 50 percent and 400 percent. However, while it says the concept has proven effective in testing, it has not yet been put into place by any municipality. An online fundraising campaign on Indiegogo fizzled, raising just a few hundred dollars toward its $1,000,000 goal.

But the company has done the math and says all California needs is 50 of its stations "to solve the drought and restore rainfall levels to the entire state."

"We think California is perfect for the technology because it's right along the Pacific," Gitman told CBS News. "We are in touch with a number of water authorities in California and we are confident that we will have a system in place in the near future."

Peter H. Gleick, president and co-founder of the Pacific Institute and a leading expert on water and climate issues, said he has his doubts about some of the more far-fetched proposals.

"There is some controversy on how effective any of these technologies are," said Gleick, who advocates reuse technologies and cutting waste as the best options for ending the drought.

"There are no shortage of ideas that might work," he said. "There is a real shortage of ideas that are likely to be economically and politically feasible."

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; desalination; drought; water
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1 posted on 04/22/2015 11:59:33 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
Crazy and not-so-crazy ideas for solving the California drought

Would "killing communists" be categorized as Crazy, or Not Crazy?

2 posted on 04/22/2015 12:04:42 PM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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imho a pubbie republican candidate for president would be well served to make a campaign promise to sponser a government research project to kill the cost of water desalination so California could just draw water from the pacific.


3 posted on 04/22/2015 12:07:34 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: ckilmer

I mentioned using the Pacific to a good friend of mine, rabid lefty, sweet person, and she asked what would happen to ocean levels if we drained all of that water from the Pacific?

I temporarily lost use of my words.


4 posted on 04/22/2015 12:20:26 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: ckilmer
Now, it's William Shatner of Star Trek fame proposing to raise $30 billion for plan to pipe water from Seattle. Never mind that much of the state of Washington is also in the grips of drought.

Minor details...

5 posted on 04/22/2015 12:22:36 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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To: ckilmer

OR, governor Moonbeam can rescind his recent orders accommodating the flood of illegals into the state, ‘cause they use water, too.


6 posted on 04/22/2015 12:24:50 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ckilmer

Some years ago an well known inventor proposed an interesting idea to increase rainfall in arid lands adjacent to oceans.

Large bodies of water have a surface layer a few millimeters thick, of much warmer water that strongly inhibits evaporation. If you can break up this thin layer, evaporation from the water skyrockets. While higher humidity by itself won’t cause rain inland, it makes it a lot easier to happen.

His idea was to construct floating wind turbines off the coast, that pumped and sprayed a mist of sea water into the air. As the cooler mist settled on the surface, it would break up the layer inhibiting evaporation and prevent its reformation.

By itself, the idea was sound. But it had an unexpected weakness, that he called “biologicals”. Basically all the sea life that clogged the intake pipes for the turbines.

No idea if he was able to come up with a way around the problem.


7 posted on 04/22/2015 12:32:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: stylin_geek

You should have told your friend that desalination of Pacific water would then simultaneously solve two problems: California’s water shortage and the rise in sea level due to global warming!


8 posted on 04/22/2015 12:33:28 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: stylin_geek

You should have told your friend that desalination of Pacific water would then simultaneously solve two problems: California’s water shortage and the rise in sea level due to global warming!


9 posted on 04/22/2015 12:33:37 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: ckilmer
"...unprecedented..."

Whenever a liberal uses this word, hang on to your wallets...

10 posted on 04/22/2015 12:37:31 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

No idea if he was able to come up with a way around the problem.
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the field of materials research is so advanced these days that they should be able to come up with a material or surface that doesn’t allow organisms to collect on it.


11 posted on 04/22/2015 12:41:33 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: MAexile

Actually, Cpt. Kirk has stated that “Washington has too much water” in support of his Kickstarter campaign.

True to form.../s


12 posted on 04/22/2015 12:50:07 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: ckilmer
The shorter term solution may end up being two-fold:

1. Massive emigration out of the state, just to reduce its water usage.
2. Switch to drought-resistant agriculture.

The more longer term solution is massive-scale seawater desalinization, especially with safer forms of nuclear power to provide the electricity to do such large-scale desalinization.

13 posted on 04/22/2015 12:56:23 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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2. Switch to drought-resistant agriculture.

Like moving the agriculture to an area of the country which isn't in a desert?

14 posted on 04/22/2015 1:17:25 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: RayChuang88

The more longer term solution is massive-scale seawater desalinization, especially with safer forms of nuclear power to provide the electricity to do such large-scale desalinization.
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Agree but to do that the R&D needs to be done that will collapse the cost of desalination and transport such that its cheap enough for desert farming.

The odd thing is that all the technology is on the table to do just that but there has been no one around to willing to express the vision and make the push in the way the liberals do for clean energy.

This is something that the pubbies should really seize because its the key to making the 21 century successful.


15 posted on 04/22/2015 1:24:23 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: stylin_geek

and she asked what would happen to ocean levels if we drained all of that water from the Pacific?

I temporarily lost use of my words.
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me too.


16 posted on 04/22/2015 1:25:19 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: skeeter

Use Illegals (in Chain Gangs) to dig a canal from colorado High serras to the inland vallies of california—like the canals on Mars.


17 posted on 04/22/2015 1:25:49 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: stylin_geek

Tell her all the islands would sink but it’s a small price to pay.


18 posted on 04/22/2015 1:28:39 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SampleMan

Look, if the Israelis can do large-scale agriculture in their homeland (which is mostly desert anyway), why not apply what the Israelis learned to California?


19 posted on 04/22/2015 1:30:04 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ckilmer

The trouble is that such turbines have a tremendous flow through. And as ship builders have long known, paints strong enough to prevent organisms from clinging to hulls have to be incredibly toxic.


20 posted on 04/22/2015 1:30:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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