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Reminder: Polls show public support for Scott Walker’s position on legal immigration
Hotair ^ | 04/22/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/22/2015 2:49:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: spintreebob

There was a study done that estimated that 6% of illegals in this country are currently voting.

With all the encouragements to register to vote at the time of signing up for welfare benefits or getting free-for-them healthcare, coupled with more and more getting drivers licenses all the time, that number is surely increasing.


41 posted on 04/23/2015 12:09:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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You clearly do not understand how vote fraud works. Do the dead actually vote? Of course not. The employees and contract agency staff of the local politician vote on behalf of the dead. The same with those too lazy to do it themselves and the same for illegals, at least in my long experience with vote fraud in IL, the fraud champion.

When non-Alinsky community organizer Oscar Lopez organized Mexican illegals to buy the same SS card, voter card, Drivers License as illegal East Europeans could buy from Dan Rostenkowski’s patronage, did a single illegal Mexican vote? I knew many of them personally. They voted for Presidents Fox and Calderon of the Republican Party of Mexico. But never in a US election.

I didn’t know well the Polish illegals and other European and Filipino illegals who had since time forgot bought voter cards. But I knew the patronage workers and saw them operate.

It is the CITIZENS who overwhelmingly commit vote fraud. It is CITIZENS who get their check from the politician who vote on behalf of others.

Only in the Obama elections did vote fraud emerge based on ideology/charisma. And that was by college students. For example, a van of white ISU students drove from polling place to polling place trying to vote as many times as possible while impersonating other college students from student housing addresses. Because students move so often, who knows where they really live.

They tried it at my polling place when I was there and they got stopped. But I followed their van. Being stopped at my polling place did not deter them from other polling places where they did vote. But the total student vote fraud (at least in IL) is miniscule compared to the vote fraud by the patronage.

BTW the most fraudulent election I’m aware of was the one between Push-Jackson faction and Obama-Partee-Beavers-Stroger faction which Sandi Jackson, wife of JJJr won. From the day Obama came to Chicago, there has been no love lost between Obama and JJ.


42 posted on 04/23/2015 2:46:45 PM PDT by spintreebob
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Your false claim is that “clearly the fact is that extremely few illegals vote”.

I posted to try to disabuse you of that naive notion. Here’s an article on the study that found otherwise:

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/391134/jaw-dropping-study-claims-large-numbers-non-citizens-vote-us-jim-geraghty


43 posted on 04/23/2015 2:54:52 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Your post says 6% of illegals. That is not what the article says. The article says 6.4% of non-citizens. I’ve often emailed corrections to the articles of the Malthusian-Guttmacher anti-capitalist CIS.

There is a big difference between the 2. The article is in error in defining 2 classes of non-citizens: illegals and legals with green cards seeking to become citizens The fact that the author ignores is that a large share of non-citizens are those with green cards not seekking to become citizens, legal tourists, students, people on work visas other than green card, etc (CIS itself lists the many special visa categories, many dozens of them spread across many agencies and departments.)

In short, the article is very sloppy journalism at best, and if intentional distortion and lies then worse than just sloppy. If the media did that type of distortion for the other side, you justifiably protest.

The fact is most non-citizens are legal..and they by far have more valid IDs than illegals.

The fact is that by far most votes cast in the name of non-citizrns (legal and illegal) are not cast by that person. They are cast on his behalf by someone else and overwhelmingly it is someone who gets his check from a politician, either as a patronage employee or as staff of a government funded agency funded to do “outreach”.

Ignoring reality of where the vote fraud is will not help us win elections. It only makes us the laughing stock of those in the immigrant communities who know the reality.


44 posted on 04/24/2015 4:13:49 PM PDT by spintreebob
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Not if they’re voting non-citizens!


45 posted on 04/24/2015 4:47:18 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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