Posted on 04/25/2015 2:25:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
"..........Mr. Walker’s apparent hardening on immigration has inspired a flood of reporting and commentary. Most recently he told the radio host Glenn Beck that he favored restricting legal immigration in tough economic times, a position to the right of most other 2016 presidential hopefuls.
He repeated that view Friday after a speech in Cedar Rapids, when Eddie Failor, 24, expressed concern “as a young Republican” that the party must make inroads to new voter blocs, including by supporting a comprehensive overhaul of immigration.
Mr. Walker told Mr. Failor that his top priority would be securing the border. He also said he favored “making sure the legal immigration system is based on making our No. 1 priority to protect American workers and their wages.’’
Alexander Staudt, the treasurer of the University of Iowa College Republicans, also told Mr. Walker in the meet-and-greet line that he was concerned that by talking tough on immigration, Republican candidates would turn off Hispanics.
“In terms of how wide or how narrow the door’s open, our No. 1 priority is American workers and American wages,’’ Mr. Walker told him. “I don’t know how anyone can argue against that.’’...........
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We'll see soon enough. If the big money donors start boycotting him, and the media manages to pin a toothbrush moustache on him, we'll know for sure he's the real thing. The problem is, he might live on only as an example of how political careers are destroyed by touching the legal immigration third rail.
You're thinking H1-B. H1-B <> green card. The conversion rate varies, and in the case of Tata and Infosys, the companies hired for the Socal Edison project, very low. From Computer World:
H-1B workers employed by offshore outsourcing companies are less likely to become permanent residents. Infosys sponsored only 2% of its workers for permanent U.S. residency over a three-year period and Tata, none, he said.
I imagine if you had substance to refute my statements, you would have used it.
He hasn’t actually said anything about states rights re: immigration, has he?
He’s certainly said lots that is pro-amnesty, pro-citizenship, and pro-open borders in the last 24 months.
That’s why a couple of vague, populist statements aren’t enough to erase his record.
There is really no meme to account for. None of the upper tier candidates and I do mean none of them are going to fundamentally change the de facto open immigration policies that we have. The debate, to the extent that there is one, revolves around whether to do that through dramatically increased legal immigration or to just legalize those who are here with the stroke of a pen.
The immigrants must flow. The uniparty has decreed it, and no political candidate who wants to have any chance at all is going to buck that.
If immigration is your sole issue of concern, then prepare for disappointment.
We basically agree then. There is no candidate out there with any chance of success who is going to fundamentally resist open immigration. In much the same way none will fundamentally change how the money supply will operate via the Fed. Electoral politics only goes so far When the uniparty is firmly in control.
They’re just your statements, not facts, FRiends. For instance, which American governor cut off instate tuition for illegals?
What has your candidate accomplished? Deeds, not words.
Do you really need me to post Walker’s pro-amnesty, citizenship and open borders quotes?
Okay, here ya go:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/22/gov-walker-wants-to-open-the-door-to-immigrants/
Have you read the progression of Walker's comments? He's the only one who is speaking for the US worker.
I don't trust any of them totally. But if Walker keeps getting that message out there, more people might rally around the issue being opportunities for the US workder.
Shouldn't we be nudging him in this direction?
Regardless of how this turns out, I find Walker's candidacy much more intriguing now that he has staked out a position on immigration well to the right of the pack. This kind of ploy is something we expect from a headline grabber and red stater like Cruz, not the mild-mannered governor of a Midwestern swing state. At the same time, in electoral vote terms, this is the policy plank that could win the GOP a broad swathe of the Midwestern blue collar vote, and therefore the electoral votes of those Rust Belt states that went for Obama in 2008 and 2012, thereby putting Walker over the top. If he wins the GOP nomination.
Oh, absolutely—right now the best hope we seem to have is either Cruz, despite his saying he’d legalize and Walker despite his saying he’d legalize, give citizenship, and have virtual open borders by way of making it so easy to enter legally.
Now, Walker seems to be trying to at least give the impression of trying to walk some of that back, by making a couple of vague references to the American worker (Palin, btw, was the first I saw to really take that anti-illegal position). Cruz also still wants to expand legal immigration, whereas Walker is at least starting to sound like he’d taper it for a bit.
I want to see the whole race turned into a race toward stronger illegal immigation positions. That doesn’t mean that they’d actually stick to it, given how much of a priority amnesty is for their biggest donors, but it’s the best we have for now.
I say give ‘em all positive reinforcement when they speak that way—but don’t fall for empty not-even promises.
I want Cruz. I might be convinced to vote for Walker. I thank you for providing lots of information for me for decision making.
It is absolutely stupid for any American to pretend that former times of immigration are the same as what we have today. At that time, we did NOT have a welfare state that made it possible for newcomers to live off the pocket books of those already here and working hard.
They had to work or they starved. Same as everyone else.
the policy of government is to koll babies — 50 million babies. Then they panicked!! No Tax payers. OMG!!
WALKERS PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ILLEGALS, CLEARLY STATED ON 4-24-15
“When I asked if he supported a pathway to legal status, he said no, he’d send them back to their country of origin and let them get in line with everybody else.”
His position on this issue ascertains he will be elected POTUS.
Its time for you to put some clickable reference on the table.
A) So you believe a campaign change of heart from his previous, repeatedly-stated policy?
and
B) Claiming to make illegals go home for a visit with the fam has long been a canard the GOPe has offered to somehow cloud their policy of legalization. He’s not deporting them, only making them wear a fig leaf that they pick up on a trip home to the home country. How does that make it any better for our country?
More and more, it looks like Walker's looking to get illegals to return to their home countries on their own dime by tightening up on workplace enforcement and increasing immigration raids.Alexander Staudt, the treasurer of the University of Iowa College Republicans, also told Mr. Walker in the meet-and-greet line that he was concerned that by talking tough on immigration, Republican candidates would turn off Hispanics.
“In terms of how wide or how narrow the door’s open, our No. 1 priority is American workers and American wages,’’ Mr. Walker told him. “I don’t know how anyone can argue against that.’’
Both Mr. Staudt and Mr. Failor asked the governor what he would do about the millions of undocumented workers already in the country. Mr. Walker said they should return to their countries of origin and apply for legal entry.
Mr. Staudt liked that answer. “The bigger that number gets,’’ he said, referring to undocumented immigrants, “it’s going to become less economically viable.’’
But Mr. Failor, who has attended several Republican candidates’ events this year, said he was disappointed.
“He gave a conflicting message, in my opinion,’’ he said. “He said he’s not one who believes in spending billions of dollars to deport all these undocumented immigrants. When I asked if he supported a pathway to legal status, he said no, he’d send them back to their country of origin and let them get in line with everybody else. I don’t know how that works within the deportation equation.’’
>>Walker has clearly divided the GOP along those who are concerned about this nation and those who care more about foreign invaders.<<
I think he’s actually divided the GOP into the legislators who support business owners vs. the legislators who support working people. And I wouldn’t be surprised to find that this is presently causing them some considerable confusion and, very soon now, some soul searching as well. That sputtering you hear coming from them now doesn’t really address his argument at all, but illustrates their current confusion.
Walker has effectively breached the divide between workers and the GOP with this move while, without saying it, effectively calling out the Democrats, and particularly President Obama, for saying they support workers while doing everything they can to import more competition for their jobs, and illegal competition at that.
As for the GOP leaders that support businesses, they will soon realize that the middle ground Walker has chosen, i.e., favoring legal immigration but not to the point that it actually suppresses American wages, is a pretty good place to be standing, especially when they come to realize how few Democrat leaders occupy that ground today.
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