They're saving the Earth, leave them alone.
Posted on 04/26/2015 7:06:29 PM PDT by ckilmer
They're saving the Earth, leave them alone.
Yes it has, and so has NIMH. Other than those two, not much.
Just take dilithium crystals and split them in half
This area of research is far from fanciful. It’s quite strong, more inevitable than not.
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Yeah I’ve seen the articles on the research as well. 95% of them or more will come to nothing. Remember the point of these press releases is to generate more money for funding of more experimental work.
That said, what’s most impressive about the new battery stories is the sheer number of them.
Maybe it will be like the catastrophic decline in the tin supply that ended the Bronze age. People were forced to develop a cheap substitute, iron, which wasn’t nearly as good for swords and tools as bronze was, but there turned out to be a lot of iron. And the Iron Age began.
and they only demand $5 billion in taxpayer subsidies
not one dime of tax dollars should go into this
I understand that, but the sheer number of them increases the likelihood of it coming to fruition.
I’m sure it will be in there somewhere. Tesla is good at slurping up taxpayer funding.
“especially considering transportation accounts for 31% of America’s carbon dioxide emissions.”
You still have to generate the electricity. A large chunk comes from coal... Lithium ion batteries do not generate power, they just store it.
I know of a much better battery. It can be formed into any shape, and the car can be charged in two minutes. The battery stores and releases solar energy (albeit solar energy from millions of years ago). Its called gasoline.
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/march/aluminum-ion-battery-033115.html
One of the new alternatives, just out of the Stanford labs, cheap, fast charging, and has many times more recharging cycles than lithium ion, and does not catch fire. Fools looking for market that is leaving, as usual.
Tesla will use ANY battery with the right specs.
DK
You're right. Amazing, isn't it, that some people want to abandon something that has been perfected over a hundred years time that works well. However, there are very few government grants given to research it. Follow the money. Another thing, I don't believe it necessarily take millions of years; it's continually being created by nature and we just need better ways to find it (like fracking and retrieving methane from ice, etc.). Tax money would be better spent on gasoline sources.
Rare earth metal. What does that mean to you?
bfl
“Tax money would be better spent on gasoline sources.”
I’d rather not spend tax money on any energy sources.
The chinese tried to corner the market on rare earths. but the the resulting high price of rare earths caused a number of mines to open around the world. so the chinese share of the rare earth market has shrunk in recent years. and will continue to do so.
There is a limited supply of the stuff. No amount of digging can change that.
Besides, using batteries that are charged from a separate source is not a creation of energy. Petroleum IS a SOURCE of energy. Batteries are a means to transfer energy in a sort of container. That source of energy is most certainly NOT the lithium.
“Almost none of them ever made it to market, and the few that did, didn’t make much of an impact.”
Yup. There is a big difference between what some lab can custom build and what can be mass produced economically.
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