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BREAKING: Freddy Gray Had Spine Surgery Just One Week Before Arrest
FourthEstate ^ | Apr28, 2015 | FourthEstate

Posted on 04/28/2015 3:24:35 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

CONFIRMED: Court records show Freddie Gray was receiving a structured settlement from Allstate Insurance and attempted to convert it into one lump sum in early March

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EXCLUSIVE: The Fourth Estate has learned that Freddy Gray’s life-ending injuries to his spine may have possibly been the result of spinal and neck surgery that he allegedly received a week before he was arrested, not from rough excessively rough treatment or abuse from police.

The Fourth Estate has contacted sources who allege that Freddy Gray received spinal and neck surgery a week before we was arrested, and was allegedly receiving a large structured settlement from Allstate Insurance. The surgery is allegedly related to a car accident in which Gray was involved.

Sources allege that Gray also attempted to refinance his structured settlement into one lump sum payment through Peachtree Funding.

If this is true, then it is possible that Gray’s spinal injury resulting from his encounter with the Baltimore Police was not the result of rough-handling or abuse, but rather a freak accident that occurred when Gray should have been at home resting, not selling drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at thefourthestate.co ...


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To: JohnKinAK

When you really love your career it’s hard to stay away from the job.


161 posted on 04/28/2015 4:52:09 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: RnMomof7

I’ve watched the arrest videos and heard some alleged eyewitness testimony. The scenario as I’ve heard it is that he was on foot, was chased by three officers, one of whom was on foot, the other two on bikes. One eye witness says that after he was caught, an officer had a knee on his neck, and the evidence of trauma followed that. The knee to the neck would have been physically insignificant on a healthy individual, but potentially a disaster for someone with a compromised spine.

So I think this goes down that the police will be held to account for failing to recognize a serious medical condition, even if Freddie was irresponsible in being out and endangering himself. Once in custody of the police, they have a heightened responsibility for his physical well-being. There is also (unofficial) testimony he tried to say he couldn’t breath. It is possible this was something the police have heard before from healthy individuals, and they didn’t see any health issues. They also can have individuals who resist by failing to cooperate physically, or who are under the influence of drugs and limp for that reason. It would be something that would go to the training of the officers in distinguishing these behaviors from a genuine medical crisis. I see liability here, but not necessarily malice.

Peace,

SR


162 posted on 04/28/2015 4:52:34 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: defconw
Yep! Sorry small business man in the hood, sorry Baptist Church that spent 16 million dollars and 8 years building a nursing home and Senior Center. Oh well!.... IDIOTS!

I have lots of comments about this sick place, and the exploiters of race violence.

But it will take time.

First I want to know how many tens or hundreds of million$ of taxpayer funds were destroyed, and why the residents and the resident scam artists, including black ministers are so blithely announcing that "it doesn't matter, we'll rebuild!"

Not with my tax dollars you damned criminal parasite!

163 posted on 04/28/2015 4:52:41 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: musicman

What difference does it make?

OH wait.. :-)

Without donations. FR would cease to exist.

Lump sum donations gladly accepted.


164 posted on 04/28/2015 4:53:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Beach333
If you look at the court record at the link...it looks more like Freddie Gray is the defendant and the Peachtree financial company was probably a debt collector for Allstate. They were likely trying to get a structured resettlement from Freddie on behalf of Allstate.

No, Peachtree pays a lump sum in exchange for the stream of income from a structured settlement. The recipient pays high imputed interest rates.

J.G. Wentworth is similar. You have probably seen their commercials.

165 posted on 04/28/2015 4:53:53 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

Why are they different case #’s?


166 posted on 04/28/2015 4:54:49 PM PDT by pnz1
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To: American Constitutionalist
In spite of that , why was he out and about walking around when he should have been home recovering from spinal and neck surgery ?

Non-compliance with medical advice.

I had ACDF from a crush injury (4-6). It was quite a bit of time from injury to final surgery. It was a very miserable period.

The instructions were two weeks of no driving, not to lift more than one pound and wear the bone stimulator for four hours a day. After two weeks rehab began for a few months.

I followed the instructions to the letter, however I was warned before hand that I would feel better than I had in months and not to be tempted. After I woke up in the OR, I did feel like getting up and going home. The months of pain were gone just like that. I remember I had the urge to go out for Jack and wings.

He was 25 and probably thought he was indestructible. He failed to comply with the bone growth protocols. My experience was zero pain after surgery, unlike before. He may have felt the same way.

He made a fatal decision.
167 posted on 04/28/2015 4:56:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: pnz1
This is a different case #

Yes. The case I posted involved Fredericka Gray, Freddie's twin sister. The two cases were filed (and resolved) on the same dates, were otherwise on the same schedule, and involved the same other parties (Peachtree and Allstate). That's the whole point - they were companion cases, that likely involved the same underlying structured settlement.

So, we know that (a) Freddie and Fredericka Gray sued their former landlord re: lead paint, (b) that case settled, (c) their landlord had am umbrella policy with Allstate that covered lead paint claims, and (d) the Grays' structured settlement was with Allstate. Based on that, it seems pretty obvious that their settlement with Allstate was related to the lead paint claims, and not to any prior spinal injury.

168 posted on 04/28/2015 4:57:19 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: All

Here’s the thing for me: If any of us had caused Freddie Gray’s death because of even an innocent act on our part that exacerbated his previous condition we’d be up on charges for at least negligent homicide.

If we’d bound him and thrown him in the back of a van and then taken him on a ‘nickel ride’ so he got tossed around in the back of the van we’d be up on charges of first degree murder.

A badge should not be an excuse or a free pass to commit crimes that anyone posting on this topic would NEVER get away with.


169 posted on 04/28/2015 4:57:42 PM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: dfwgator

ROFL!! Thanks.


170 posted on 04/28/2015 4:58:56 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: BenLurkin

I knew a kid in high school who was involved in a car wreck where all the kids were underaged and unlicensed. After they wrapped around a pole, he was the only one conscious and to avoid the police, he ran home about two miles away. A day later, after learning he was also in the car, the cops showed up at his home and took him to the hospital. He had a broken neck and had to wear a halo brace for a year and a half.


171 posted on 04/28/2015 4:59:15 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: PA Engineer

Your entire post is premised on the assumption that he had spinal surgery. There is NO evidence he did. None.


172 posted on 04/28/2015 4:59:33 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Admin Moderator

Gret work.

Mod: How about adding “See BS exposed in 144” to title?


173 posted on 04/28/2015 5:00:04 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: ErnBatavia

I seem to remember something about a lead paint settlement in the news. Until this is confirmed by a reliable source, it may be pure speculation.


174 posted on 04/28/2015 5:00:22 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: mass55th
Instead of the surgery, he should have just taken a pill like Obama said.

IOW, it wasn't an Obamacare death panel that killed him, it was a Baltimore PD death panel.

Crap, I'm going to hell over that one.

175 posted on 04/28/2015 5:00:36 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Bingo


176 posted on 04/28/2015 5:00:52 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe like ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: dead

Is this one of those “I once knew a guy who...” stories?


177 posted on 04/28/2015 5:01:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: JohnKinAK

So far no credible sources for this; it’s just bouncing around in the ultra-right blogosphere echo chamber:

https://www.google.com/search?q=freddie+gray+spine+surgery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=%22freddie+gray%22+%22spine+surgery%22


178 posted on 04/28/2015 5:01:16 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If he had spinal surgery that recently, it’ll show up in autopsy. We’ll know then.


179 posted on 04/28/2015 5:01:48 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: JohnKinAK

bfl


180 posted on 04/28/2015 5:02:02 PM PDT by ImNotLying
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