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ABC News ^ | May 1, 2015

Posted on 05/01/2015 10:28:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: ilovesarah2012

Makes you wonder why McSpadden was still on the job.


41 posted on 05/01/2015 11:37:40 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: chris37

“If that is indeed the governing statute there, it seems like his pocket knife is covered by (1), switch blade or not, and the arrest was legal.”


Yeah, it looks as if there is enough room in the language to arrest him at least.


42 posted on 05/01/2015 11:39:27 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These guys will never get a fair trial in Baltimore City. Hell, even the cops don't arrest black criminals like they used to because of racial jury nullification. I read one study where only two percent of black defendants in Baltimore are found guilty of the original charges when tried in front of a black jury. Move the trials outside of Baltimore, and that conviction rate goes up to over 60 percent.

Add massive witness tampering, snitches get stitches and less than enthusiastic prosecutors to the list, and you end up with a police force that does not arrest black criminals. The juries refuse to convict them and so they run wild in the streets. Crime is down in Baltimore simply because arrests are down. Blacks don't get arrested for beating down whites so there is an epidemic of black on white crime in Baltimore. The city is worse off than when I lived there and I didn't think that was even possible.

43 posted on 05/01/2015 11:47:48 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: chris37

Yes, all those charges seem to create a path for negotiating to lesser charges, maybe throwing some out once these cops get legal counsel.

At best, Chris, the cop behavior is suspicious, but few buy that Gray broke his own back, neck and throat, whatever.

I just go back to the appalling lack of evidence that corroborates a thing the cops reported. Gray looked in agony in the arrest scuffle, imho. The cops said he was enraged. I don’t see that, but thought his face appeared agonized. Eye of the beholder evidence.

Not saying the cops even realized he had been seriously injured in the scuffle. In the van it was worse and no film, no evidence, too many stops and he’s unconscious.

Not good. But, nobody should be railroaded by a bunch of fascists.


44 posted on 05/01/2015 11:48:11 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: House Atreides; Swordmaker

These police officers should be stomping on their ipads and apple watches and leave the humans alone


45 posted on 05/01/2015 11:51:49 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: mass55th

Thanks for the correction on the warrant. The state attorney charged officers with one count of “no probable cause for arrest”.

The lead officer had suffered mental illness and had his own weapons taken by a deputy, but you probably have heard that.

Not much justification for the cops, so far.


46 posted on 05/01/2015 12:00:49 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: ilovesarah2012

It should have cost the taxpayers 30 or 40 million dollars. It should have cost the city so much that the lowest property tax bill was 100,000 dollars.


47 posted on 05/01/2015 12:02:38 PM PDT by sport
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To: RitaOK
"The lead officer had suffered mental illness and had his own weapons taken by a deputy, but you probably have heard that."

Hadn't heard that. Thanks for mentioning it. I'm sure there's plenty more to come out in the days ahead...about everyone involved...from the State Attorney, all the way down to Freddie Gray.

48 posted on 05/01/2015 12:10:32 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I look forward to seeing the murder charges for the VA employees who let Veterans die while in their care.


49 posted on 05/01/2015 12:31:34 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MNDude

“I don’t know if they should have been charged or not, but this is setting a TERRIBLE precedence where the rioting of thugs results in the legal consequence they were seeking”

If the decision to charge is correct, should they then decide to not charge them because of the riots? The riots should not affect the decision either way.

I believe that while the riots and the media circus were happening, the actual investigation was also happening, and this is the result.


50 posted on 05/01/2015 12:32:16 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: chris37
If that is indeed the governing statute there, it seems like his pocket knife is covered by (1), switch blade or not, and the arrest was legal.

Nope. "Weapon" is a defined term in Maryland law:

"Weapon" includes a dirk knife, bowie knife, switchblade knife, star knife, sandclub, metal knuckles, razor, and nunchaku.

"Weapon" does not include:
1. a handgun; or
2. a penknife without a switchblade.

So, if it was not a switchblade, it was likely not covered by the statute.

51 posted on 05/01/2015 12:33:46 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: chris37

“If that is indeed the governing statute there, it seems like his pocket knife is covered by (1), switch blade or not, and the arrest was legal.”

It has been revealed that the knife was not a switchblade, it was a common belt-clip type folding knife that many people carry.


52 posted on 05/01/2015 12:34:35 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: ilovesarah2012
"So if you are arrested, you should not expect a trial?"
======
Sorry, but you're just blabbering nonsensically. First, you
desperately need to google what "double jeopardy"
means. From there, you're on your own. Good luck.

53 posted on 05/01/2015 12:38:18 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: ilovesarah2012; All
You cannot arrest someone for something they were previously arrested for - something about double jeopardy

I think you better re-check the rule book there, slick; you can't be TRIED twice for the SAME offense, is what 'double jeopardy' is about. IOW, if you are accused of, say, kidnapping someone, and you are tried and acquitted, you can't be tried for that again; but if you are arrested for kidnapping a second person, double jeopardy has NOTHING to do with it. You can and will be prosecuted for the second offense.
54 posted on 05/01/2015 12:43:29 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: MNDude

I think Clint Eastwood starred in a movie similar to this. Wasn’t it “Hang Em High”?


55 posted on 05/01/2015 12:57:02 PM PDT by biff (Et Tu Boeh-ner)
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To: notdownwidems

“Under the “same-conduct” analysis, the government is forbidden to prosecute an individual twice for the same criminal behavior,”

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Double+Jeopardy


56 posted on 05/01/2015 1:17:09 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: LouieFisk

State attorney said his arrest was unlawful.

Argue with her.


57 posted on 05/01/2015 1:18:50 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
If a particular proceeding does not place an individual in jeopardy, then subsequent proceedings against the same individual for the same conduct are not prohibited

Are NOT prohibited http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Double+Jeopardy
58 posted on 05/01/2015 1:23:22 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Alright, if that is what the law states, then that's what it sates. However, I can't see how they could classify nunchaku as a dangerous weapon! (I can spin them just like Nick here can :D)

59 posted on 05/01/2015 1:49:41 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Bones75

Alright. If that normal folder is not covered by that law, then it’s not covered.


60 posted on 05/01/2015 1:50:30 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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