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To: pepsionice

There can be paradoxical reactions to any medication or drug.

And yet, in this modern time there is some responsibility expected of the captors as well as the captives. Not even by himself, other loose bodies were chucked into the paddy wagon. To shake that around is not conscionable, I don’t care how much contempt you have for “criminal class” since if we stop leaving “karma” up to God, focusing ourselves on written and standardized canons of justice, we end up uncorking the raw desire for revenge which is what, incidentally, fueled the riots.


251 posted on 05/02/2015 5:01:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
And yet, in this modern time there is some responsibility expected of the captors as well as the captives. Not even by himself, other loose bodies were chucked into the paddy wagon. To shake that around is not conscionable, I don’t care how much contempt you have for “criminal class” since if we stop leaving “karma” up to God, focusing ourselves on written and standardized canons of justice, we end up uncorking the raw desire for revenge which is what, incidentally, fueled the riots.

I tend to agree with you. There's a reason why straitjackets and padded rooms exist, and it isn't necessarily because the person put in them is going to harm others

So I completely buy off on the concept of this guy having a drug-induced, self-destructive, violent reaction and throwing himself around in the van in a way that ended up causing his fatal injuries.

What I don't buy off on is that it was ok for the cops to take someone who was handcuffed and legshackled and just tossing him into the back of a van without also restraining him to the van. We all wear seatbelts for a reason, right? And then (allegedly) taking him for a "nickle ride."

Having said that though, the question is whether doing so is just common sense, or formalized police policy that the cops in question had been briefed on. I've read where there was such a policy but that it was only a few days old and the cops may not have been briefed on it yet.

In that case the cops probably have a pretty good defense. At least against the more serious charges. It also shows that this situation is MUCH more complex than the politicized narratives (on both sides) would have us believe.
264 posted on 05/02/2015 6:42:05 AM PDT by tanknetter
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