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Adolf Hitler’s Suicide and Nazism’s Irrational Rationality
FrontPage Magazine ^ | May 4, 2015 | Vladimir Tismaneanu and Marius Stan

Posted on 05/05/2015 5:10:31 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

A very interesting article. Thanks for posting it.


21 posted on 05/05/2015 7:33:12 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A moderate Muslim will cut your throat. A radical Muslim will cut off your head.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“What a difference I make!”

Bwahahahahaha! never saw that before today. Irony is so abused these days that the hyper-irony of such a boast is blunted.


22 posted on 05/05/2015 7:53:02 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: IronJack

Hitler was also inspired by Stalin’s brutality.


23 posted on 05/05/2015 7:56:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I’d like to think they were cut from the same megalomaniacal cloth, and that they learned from each other. In any case, Stalin was every bit as brutal, even though it’s Hitler whose name is synonymous with genocide.


24 posted on 05/05/2015 8:25:36 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Hitler and Stalin were murderous “siblings”. And the Nazi-Soviet war within a war in WW2 was the largest and bloodiest “gangster” war in history. Hitler’s lust for territory (Lebensraum) overcame any possible ideological kinship with Stalin and was the motivating factor in his betrayal of the non-aggression pact. If one studies history they will learn western Communists and sympathizers (Roosevelt included?) were NOT enthusiastic supporters of the war against Hitler until the “precious” Soviet worker’s “paradise” was attacked June 22, 1941. Then all were on board with war to save the world. Some even argue Roosevelt baited the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor with economic actions against Japan (oil, metal embargoes, etc.). Was an irony of the three totalitarian nations in the 20th Century, one (USSR) ended up in on the Allied side.


25 posted on 05/05/2015 9:08:43 AM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: FiddlePig
(USSR) ended up in on the Allied side.

Only long enough to fend off Hitler, then Stalin's true colors showed.

I believe Hitler was an idealogue, fixated on the notion of Aryan supremacy. Stalin, on the other hand, was simply an egomaniacal madman. It wasn't Bolshevism that was supposed to rule the world; it was Iosif Vissarionovich.

26 posted on 05/05/2015 9:50:08 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: cripplecreek

He referenced bankers and capitalists simply some of those very folks were on the radio and newspaper circuit bragging of their passing financial and production data to the allies.


27 posted on 05/05/2015 11:37:26 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: FiddlePig
western Communists and sympathizers (Roosevelt included?) were NOT enthusiastic supporters of the war against Hitler until the “precious” Soviet worker’s “paradise” was attacked June 22, 1941. Then all were on board with war to save the world. Some even argue Roosevelt baited the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor with economic actions against Japan (oil, metal embargoes, etc.).
The New Dealers' War:
FDR and the War Within World War II
by Thomas Fleming is a testament to that. It doesn’t say that FDR only got excited about opposing Hitler after Germany invaded the USSR - it simply notes that American harassment of German U-boats intensified “throughout the summer of 1941.” The start of the summer of 1941 was of course the Summer Solstice. Which just happens to be the date of the German invasion of the USSR . . .

The New Dealers’ War starts out with a discussion of the political context of Pearl Harbor. It appears that the Roosevelt Administration mousetrapped the pacifists (who were 80% of the public) with a strategic leak of classified information the week before Dec 7. If you didn’t know better, you would think that the leaker knew the Japanese attack was imminent.

Another very interesting book which discusses pre-Pearl Harbor America is

Freedom's Forge:
How American Business Produced Victory in World War II
Arthur Herman
This book discusses the fact that from the Fall of France (June, 1940) onward, FDR - who had been in the Navy Department during WWI and knew that American war production was never a factor in that war because it took so long for mobilization of the economy - took vigorous action not only to keep the British war effort afloat but to DRAMATICALLY build up the American arms industry.

FDR was told by his mobilization chief - Bill Knudsen, head of Chevrolet - that mobilization would take 18 months. In that time, precision machine tools were manufactured, facilities were built, and production workers were trained by starting to produce hardware. And during that time whatever war materiel we had, we sent to Britain. Thus, the American military was poorly equipped at the time of Pearl Harbor - and yet immediately afterward, American production began to weigh heavily against the Axis powers. A cynic would notice how close December 7, 1941 is to 18 months after June 22, 1940 . . .

BTW, the start of the American production mobilization included the famous technology transfer from Britain which include RADAR, the Merlin engine plans (which Packard had to translate to American production practice), etc.

Was an irony of the three totalitarian nations in the 20th Century, one (USSR) ended up in on the Allied side.
Before Pearl Harbor, American conservatives commented that the pity of the war between Hitler and Stalin was that they couldn’t both lose. FDR didn’t see it that way at all; America built a truck assembly plant in Iran to put together the Studebaker-made parts shipped over on Liberty ships. That was far more efficient than shipping the assembled trucks over because the assembled truck took up ten times as much space on a ship as the parts did. Russian drivers picked up those trucks - fully loaded with other materiel, pretty much whatever Stalin wanted - and drove them where they were wanted in Russia. Those trucks were crucial in providing mobility to a Red Army which had been outclassed in that department.
The time to have discontinued those shipments was after the Battle of Kursk in mid-1943, after which the Germans were permanently on the defensive. That would have delayed Allied victory until August, 1945 - when, of course, the A-bomb would have been decisive in Europe as well as Japan. And Pax Americana - the condition existing after 1990, say - would have existed by default. But the Roosevelt Administration was far too pro-Soviet for that.

28 posted on 05/05/2015 1:41:55 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The only physical proof of Hitler’s body was offered up by the Russians and they handed over a piece of skull from a woman. THAT’S IT!

There was NO evidence of his death. Even the witnesses stories didn’t match up.


29 posted on 05/05/2015 2:50:05 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: IronJack
“Hitler just wanted a Jew-free Europe. He left it to his twisted minions to handle the details.”

Hitler wanted the Jews exterminated. Himmler and Heydrich obeyed his orders. The only “details” he was interested in was that they were murdered. He didn't care how. Himmler never had the power, as great as it was, to exterminate the Jews without Hitler's orders. He didn't want them shipped to some island of off Africa or to Shangri-la. He wanted them dead.

30 posted on 05/05/2015 3:13:18 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: longfellow

There was evidence he was running in the North Minehead byelection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJpDxlI8H0


31 posted on 05/05/2015 3:43:41 PM PDT by xp38
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To: HenpeckedCon
He wanted them dead.

He wanted them gone from Europe. If by "gone," that meant dead, that was okay with him.

If you get the chance, watch the movie "Conspiracy." It portrays the meeting at which the "Final Solution" was worked out. Hitler did not attend. Actually, neither did Himmler. But their presence loomed large over the assembly as they worked out, in cold-blooded mechanical detail, how the "transportation" and "relocation" proposals were not working, and how they were forced to move to a more permanent solution.

It is chilling in its dispassion. You could be watching the minutes of a board meeting instead of a planning session for the eradication of an entire race.

32 posted on 05/05/2015 4:16:48 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: cripplecreek

Bttt, and thanks


33 posted on 05/05/2015 5:26:53 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: SJackson

‘Silence is the real crime against humanity.’”

OK. They’re killing Christians all over the Middle East, Asia and Africa. Muslims are doing that. To Christians. But Pamella Geller is, of course, the real enema.


34 posted on 05/05/2015 5:54:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: longfellow

Like I always say when watching a police-procedural on TV, “No body, no dead.”


35 posted on 05/05/2015 7:22:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: xp38

Did you ever see the documentary on them?


36 posted on 05/06/2015 8:22:07 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: IronJack

As best I can tell, Hitler used the term “Jews” to mean “The bad people who oppressed us”. A Jewish cobbler was no threat to Germany but a banker, whether Jewish or not, was a threat. Instead of trying to explain the nuances of the conspiracy, Hitler just condensed it to “the Jews”. Simple and easy for people to understand.

Rappers do it today. When they talk about Jews, they mean “rich people”.


37 posted on 05/06/2015 8:30:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Frankly, I’m not convinced Hitler even meant Jews. He just needed some boogeyman against whom he could rally the Germans after WWI. The vague “bankers, capitalists, and Jews” fit that bill, even though Jews had been productive members of German society for centuries.


38 posted on 05/06/2015 9:22:47 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Yes but Jews was quick and easy and they were a traditional scapegoat. I think that is what made it so evil. They were eradicating the Jews....just because.


39 posted on 05/06/2015 9:59:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: IronJack
If you get the chance, watch the movie “Conspiracy.”

“Die Wannseekonferenz” is a better movie in my opinion. It has English sub-tittles.

40 posted on 05/06/2015 10:57:38 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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