Posted on 05/07/2015 6:43:11 AM PDT by GIdget2004
A federal court has decided that the National Security Agency’s (NSA) bulk, warrantless collection of millions of Americans’ phone records is illegal.
The decision from the Second Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday represents the second major court victory for opponents of the NSA, after a lower court decision called the program nearly unconstitutional six months ago.
The phone records program “exceeds the scope of what Congress has authorized,” Judge Gerard Lynch wrote on behalf of the three-judge panel. The court did not examine the constitutionality of the surveillance program.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
“They can’t even stop the telemarketers from violating the “do not call” list.”
Nor can they stop the satellite countries from blasting their commrercials’ volume.
RRRRIIIIIIIIGHT
You can believe they don’t vacuum up everything and when they find something good maybe go to the Court to actually use it..
The LAW does not apply to this gov’t
I don’t care about whether congress authorized the trampling of the bill of rights.
He can’t be impeached - obama is black and immune to criticism without it being attributed to racism. Impeachment is beyond comprehension.
The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit is one of the thirteen United States Courts of Appeals. Its territory comprises the states of Connecticut, New York, and Vermont.
With 13 active and 10 senior judges, the Second Circuit is midsized among the thirteen United States courts of appeals.
Of course its illegal and unconstitutional.
Anyone who has read the constitution knew this would have to be the case if the Constitution was going to be upheld.
The people are to be secure in their persons and their belongings (including data), unless there is probable cause, and a court ordered warrant regarding specifics of a search.
The NSA is capturing everyone’s data, by default, with no probable cause and no warrant and then storing it all in massive data banks in Virginia and Utah. That data is then categorized and mined by all sorts of agencies...again, all without any probable cause or specific warrant.
Of course it is unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
But YOU will be arrested an indicted for doing so.
The court didn’t actually answer the question of whether or not this is constitutional. They only ruled that it was beyond what the scope of the law passed allowed.
I am in awe. A USG court could figure out that Soviet era spying on every electronic activity of USA citizens is against the Supreme law of the land of USA? Where did these judges come from, were they not trained in properly indoctrinated schools?
So the 2nd Circuit rules that NSA metadata collection is illegal, unconstitutional and must stop. (Which they didn't say, by the way, but let's just assume that they did.)
And the NSA says, who's going to make us stop? Certainly not some puny panel of judges. Certainly not this pusillanimous congress. And probably not even the WH - not that 0bamugabe ever would.
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Listening to Judge Napolitano, it comes down like this.
Either through stupidity or deliberate malice, Bush II misread the original provisions of the Patriot Act with respect to collection of phone and communications data, and interpreted as it allowing the government to collect that information in a massive manner from ALL Americans.
The Court here is saying that Congress needs to clarify this section of the Patriot Act through legislation.
Then, if COngress is obtuse and arrogant enough to rewrite the portion of the statute to reflect what Bush II intended, the Courts will have to review that statute to determine that it indeed violates the Constitution, which of course it does.
I have no doubt that Boehner and McConnell will give Obama authority to CONTINUE spying on ALL Americans REGARDLESS of any Constitutionally required court order until and when someobody takes them to Court AGAIN on this subject in an effort to enforce the Constitution.
This is another reason WHY we need TERM LIMITS and a COnstitutional Convention. The idiots we continue to elect to office again and again and again, have formed a class apart from the mass of the citizens and regard themselves as the sole arbiters of constitutionality, NOT the Constitution itself.
One idiot, George Bush II, has given a Monster and a traitor, Obama, a method of persecuting all American citizens who dissent with governmental policies.
Paging Hillary to wipe their servers.
Our hands are tied, give us the WH and then you will see action.
Ah, I believe Jesus said the perfect response:
Matthew 13:12 -- "But his master replied, ‘You wicked and lazy slave! You knew, did you, that I reap where I did not sow, and gather where I did not scatter? Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and on my return I would have received what was my own with interest. So take the talent from him, and give it to the one with the ten talents. For to all those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away. As for this worthless slave, throw him into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’"
NSA spying flap extends to contents of US phone calls
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It is all there as a big net waiting to be used, someday. The issue is that it should never have even been stored in the first place unless there was probable cause.
It’s almost like having a camera and mic recording your every conversation, along with a black box in your vehicle recording your every action and destination. It is all “what if” information that may be usable to somebody someday. We are almost there.
If only the govt would have prevented 9-11 there would have been no incentive or justification for a Patriot Act or for govt to expand the surveillance. Everything changed after 9-11 to the detriment of the USA public in many ways.
This statement itself, combined with how the government has headlong barreled into totalitarianism,* is the best evidence for the government was responsible for 9/11
I have seen. Look at all this; it didn't just grow, it was planned.
* — Remember when the NSA's domestic espionage came to light via Mr. Snowden? Remember how the Congress, instead of acting against the agency, defended it?
These are not the actions of leaders who are displeased with their subordinates, they are actions taken to protect their subordinates from lawful punishment… to what end?
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