Posted on 05/08/2015 8:52:28 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
It all started with an unwanted knock on the door by a government worker and it’s being answered with a $60 million lawsuit. A New Jersey family is suing the state child-protection agency after it allegedly sent a caseworker to their home to interrogate them on everything from their son’s homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.
Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole of Belvidere filed a civil rights complaint in April in U.S. District Court in Trenton alleging “unlawful and unconstitutional home intrusion.” “I won’t forget that morning for a long, long time,” said Christopher Zimmer, thinking back to Tuesday, Jan. 13, which began with a caseworker knocking on his front door.
He said Michelle Marchese, a caseworker for the state Division of Child Protection and Permanency, demanded she be let inside the house, “Now!” according to court documents. Startled by the aggressive confrontation, Christopher Zimmer asked the purpose of her visit.
Marchese refused to answer the question, saying only that 15-year-old Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a “proper education” and she was at the Zimmer home under the authority of DCP&P to make sure they were homeschooling their son “correctly,” the suit states.
Not knowing the extent of his rights, Christopher Zimmer phoned local police. The police arrived on the scene but allowed Marchese to enter the home and continue to issue threats to the family and inspect the house, all without a warrant, the lawsuit states.
The Zimmers let the woman inside, attempting to prove they had nothing to hide, but after two hours of what the family described as intense interrogation, it became clear this issue would not be quickly resolved.
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As far as homeschooling is concerned, NJ doesn’t have any restrictions whatsoever although it’s not from lack of trying by some legislators. The legislature isn’t interested in regulating it.
Gestapo.
“The Zimmers let the woman inside”
“She also demanded that he remove the guns from the safe and show them to her, which he did.”
Sorry, but the family lost their case. No matter what this case worker threatened, no matter how angry she got, no matter that the police officer asked (or told?) them to let her in, they should have NEVER allowed her entry. Period. They should have responded to her demands by asking to see a warrant. Suing for “unlawful and unconstitutional home intrusion” when they let her in? They dont have a leg to stand on.
the ABA model law project has been working on making children “accessories” to marriage and “incidental” to a male/female relationship (marriage etc)
The purpose is for the government to define the status of a child in relation to parents. IOW the government determines who own the child. The child becomes, per the ABA, a ward of the courts by PRESUMPTION.
The ABA model law project is also instrumental in redefining marriage and most likely what kennedy is looking at as he is writing his marriage based on adult sex acts edict.
CPS workers, though, are either uninformed or will lie to you about what the law actually is...
because they “know better” than parents.
Especially those 25 yr old unmarried female CPS caseworkers.
not automatically. She used color of authority to lie her way into the house. Also this was not hot pursuit by police or an act by police investigating a crime after an arrest or detention.
She simply lied.
Only a fool takes legal advice from home intruders.
My response to any request to search/enter/whatever: "You do not have my permission, and I will be filing a lawsuit. Make sure you don't put yourself personally at risk along with the liability you are imposing on your agency."
I agree. She lied. But the same way police interrogators are legally allowed to lie to their suspects, I fear the court will find that she is perfectly allowed to lie in order to trick them into letting her into their home.
“A New Jersey family...”
It is WRONG to live in New Jersey.
“Not knowing the extent of his rights, Christopher Zimmer phoned local police. ”
Mistake number 2. In order to find that out, he should have phoned a local lawyer, not the local police.
Note to self...have a good lawyer who receives phone calls at all hours.
Nice!
I agree with you on that one. Once you allow them inside, everything else goes out the window.
That's with probable cause. As opposed to gornischt. The problem here is that there was no legitimate purpose for disturbing these people and throwing around threats. For that reason, I think they're on solid ground.
It's a different situation from being a lawbreaker and letting a cop in, who then sees your bong, a severed head, and $15,000 in cash on the couch.
This is true. Psychology is considered medical, ie Brainwashing.
That is an interesting site to which you linked. I’ll have to check it out more thoroughly.
It’s an interesting bunch of people.
I’m not one of them.
“It’s a different situation from being a lawbreaker and letting a cop in, who then sees your bong, a severed head, and $15,000 in cash on the couch.”
Hey, the severed head wasnt mine. I was holding it for a friend.
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