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Kentucky ‘free range’ family loses custody of 10 kids over apparent ‘unschooling’
Examiner ^ | 5/8/2015 | Travis Gettys

Posted on 05/09/2015 5:53:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf

It is every parent’s worst nightmare, and according to a report on Police State Daily and the Medical Kidnapping site; for one homeschooling family in Kentucky, it has come true. On May 6, Kentucky homesteading Naugler family had their ten children taken into the custody of the state and are now fighting to regain custody and to prove their innocence.

According to the family’s facebook blog page, Blessed Little Homestead, and other sources above, the police showed up, asked to see the children, and when the mother asked to see a warrant and what the charges were, the sheriff proceeded to explain how it would “come down” if she did not comply and that there had been an anonymous complaint filed with Child Protective Services that he needed to investigate. Eventually, she agreed for the two older children to wave to the officer and was then free to go. At that point, she drove away with her two oldest children and was pulled over.

According to the audio of the incident, she was then asked to release the children into their custody. She refused, but the children were still taken. As they were taken, she reacted with heart-wrenching screams as she was being cuffed and arrested. On later audio, her husband shows up on the scene and asks where his children and wife are and records the transaction as he is told to bring his other 8 children to a specified location by 10 a.m. or he would be arrested and the children taken into state custody. He complied, and all ten of the children are now in state custody. Nicole Naugler also blogs at homestead mama.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: alexjones; blessedlittlehmstd; commonexpression; communes; facebook; fascism; hgignorant; hippies; homeschool; kentucky; largeacreofland; lewrockwell; nannystate; nicolenaugler
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To: csivils

WRONG, unschooling is one of many approaches to homeschooling.


101 posted on 05/09/2015 4:21:06 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: pepsionice

What you’re describing sounds more like the “school at home” approach. There are many approaches to homeschooling, unschooling is one of them, school at home is another.....


102 posted on 05/09/2015 4:22:50 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: Albion Wilde

I hate to use the word but I will. This incident reminded me of Nazi soldiers ripping kids away from parents as they got off trains at concentration camps. For an unknowing, immature, young, innocent child, what the hells the difference between a nazi soldier in uniform and a Kentucky State Trooper in uniform? The Terror to the child at the moment of separation, with momma screaming her head off, is the same.

Notwithstanding any of the foregoing, I support forcible removal of some children from some parents. But, I support it only in emergencies involving their life or after due process by thinking, responsible, caring, educated adults has concluded there is no other common sense option. And, even then they better be right if they want to get some sleep at night.


103 posted on 05/09/2015 4:25:21 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: yldstrk

Ooooh, the State has their best interests at heart! And another poster on this site....”steeling from that he was going to shot them”

Spare me. It seems this family makes choices that I would not make, but the State darn well wouldn’t make them for me either.


104 posted on 05/09/2015 4:47:15 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: Patriot Babe

You’re right, Patriot Babe.


105 posted on 05/09/2015 4:47:57 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

Contrary to what has been erroneously posted here, unschooling is a approach to homeschooling. It’s not homeschooling OR unschooling.


106 posted on 05/09/2015 4:50:54 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: cuban leaf
I read different accounts. I trust CPS as far as I can throw them. This family (dad especially) has raised alarm bells as well.

I don't know what the right decision is, but removing kids from a family should be in a last resort only.

107 posted on 05/09/2015 4:52:05 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We need a conservative electable candidate in 2016)
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To: cuban leaf; yldstrk

feral. Not like the inner city youths in Baltimore or any other city, that attend government schools.


108 posted on 05/09/2015 4:53:34 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: CommerceComet

Anytime there is possible merit to accusations? NO. Any time there is proof? I’m not trusting the State to cough up possible merit to accusations. They surely will find something to take your children away over.


109 posted on 05/09/2015 4:58:12 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: BlackAdderess

You can tell from a few photos?? You’re amazing. I bet you went to government indoctrination centers (aka skools) for your education! How else could you know so much?!


110 posted on 05/09/2015 5:03:22 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: BobL

Not at all. We were not unschoolers but I did believe in certain aspects of homeschooling that you might not agree with. I had one son that didn’t read until he was 13. He was a bright lad, and had all the tools necessary, but could not decipher the words in a sentence. I know many would have labeled him much earlier, but I’d been there/done that with oldest son and the public school. Medicine, learning disability labels, the whole nine yards. As I mentioned, this one had the tools, he just couldn’t apply them. I waited, and in the meantime, taught. When he was...13? He picked up a copy of King Arthur’s Court from Great Illustrated Classics and read it, cover to cover. Nothing could stop him after that. I’m not saying every child is the same, not at all, but there is no line in the sand that ends at 12.


111 posted on 05/09/2015 5:10:15 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: Shimmer1

We home schooled, but I would have preferred unschooling. My wife was afraid of it, and our school system required a curriculum, so I don’t know if it would have flown, anyway.

Congratulations to you!


112 posted on 05/09/2015 5:20:48 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: pepsionice

-— The Unschooled kid doesn’t ever get tested and you can’t certify him to anything -—

Good heavens!

Have you ever read the bio of Ben Franklin?

I’d also recommend”The Underground History of American Education.” It’s available to read online for free.

Compulsory schooling has never been a benign institution. It has always been a humanist /progressive project.


113 posted on 05/09/2015 5:36:21 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: maine-iac7

This is heartbreaking:

Blessed Little Homestead
Yesterday at 3:18pm ·

I know these posts are all over the web. So I hope this gets to the right people.

I don’t know where my children are but if you have them tell them we miss and love them dearly. We will see them soon.

My heart is broken. I have been trying to keep busy with the legal stuff to keep my mind busy. It’s going to be the longest weekend of my life.


114 posted on 05/09/2015 6:35:49 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Albion Wilde
Thanks for posting that link. Here's another photo of the family.

I haven't read the DM article, yet, but the lead-up seems to be highly sensationalized. I like the DM as I read about things with them they I don't see in our own press, but I don't put much stock into that hype. I hope they get their kids back unless they is *real* abuse going on. The state is causing psychological harm...especially to the littlest ones.

115 posted on 05/09/2015 6:45:45 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Shimmer1

I googled and read around, it wasn’t pretty.


116 posted on 05/09/2015 6:52:54 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3074746/Surrounded-garbage-kept-school-neighbors-threatened-knives-s-just-free-range-parenting-claim-parents-blast-authorities-seizing-10-kids.html

Three comments on the DM article that I agree with:

FHVII, Why, United States, about an hour ago
Sorry but your scathing article title isn’t forcing my opinion on this matter. I think these children look incredibly happy and healthy. F the control freaks!!

A.J., L.A. CA, United States, about an hour ago
And when the Grid goes down, we’ll be running to them for Help!

iworkforaliving, Orlando, about an hour ago
I The government is just threatened with families who want to live free from government welfare. The kids look happy and healthy. Their pets too.


117 posted on 05/09/2015 6:54:05 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: maine-iac7
Stay under the radar

I think very good advice.

118 posted on 05/09/2015 7:02:18 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: demshateGod

I knew two girls who were homeschooled this way. It’s called un schooling, and it just basically means they have unstructured learning. All kids learn- they are learning machines. Their parents were college professors.

I had them in Sunday school for a while and they were way below grade level in reading. But you know what, they did learn in that way, in fact, both were offered college scholarships and both attended and graduated college, and hsve gone on tosuccessful adulthood.

as long as the kids aren’t part of the state government controlled education, the state has no business interfering. The state can’t even educate the kids they’ve got in their own schools. They don’t own people’s children, just because they happen to live in their state.


119 posted on 05/09/2015 7:04:27 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Patriot Babe
I envy them for having a large acre of land.

Me, too!

120 posted on 05/09/2015 7:04:51 PM PDT by beaversmom
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