Posted on 05/09/2015 10:23:18 AM PDT by drewh
The Patriots are concerned that quarterback Tom Brady could face a suspension ranging from six and eight games, according to a report from CSN New England.
Any punishment from the NFL would result from the recent Ted Wells report, which stated "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware" that footballs were deflated below the league's minimum requirement against the Colts in the AFC Championship.
Following the AFC Championship and leading up to the Super Bowl, Brady told reporters he was confident that no one in the Patriots organization broke any rules. Footballs must be inflated to 12.5 PSI to meet league standards. Footballs tested at halftime in the AFC Championship game were underinflated.
Brady made an appearance at Salem State University as part of a speaker series on Thursday but declined to talk much about the Deflategate controversy.
However, he did answer a question as to whether he thought the Patriots' Super Bowl victory over the Seahawks was tainted as a result to the controversy.
No, absolutely not," Brady said, via The Boston Globe. "You know, I've dealt with a lot of things in the past, I dealt with this three months ago. I've dealt with a lot of adversity in my career, and I'm fortunate I have so many people that love me and support me, and certainly I accept my role and responsibility as a public figure, a lot of it you take the good with the bad ... We'll get through it.
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He should be banned for life.
Okay, if Brady broke the rules and it’s bad enough to be suspendable . . . then does he get to keep the ring he apparently won as a result of cheating to get there?
Wouldn’t even be an issue though, if Russell Wilson didn’t toss a 3-yard interception at the goal line in the last couple of seconds of the game.
“He should be banned for life.”
Should Aaron Rogers be banned for life also?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/20/aaron-rodgers-likes-his-footballs-overinflated/
I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,’ Simms said Rodgers told them before the game.
I saw that too. Rogers should be sent to prison and the Green Bay Packer franchise disbanded.
I wouldn’t mind. :)
Point is this whole thing is a freaking joke.
It is only because of the altered footballs that NE won. The lower pressure balls were why LaGarette Blount left cleat marks all over the chests of Colt defenders and enabled him to run for 166 yards and four touchdowns.
Maybe the Indy defenders had deflated balls.
Really, I don’t want to see effing Kraft ever win another title but this is ridiculous.
BTW, did not Brady throw the goal line Int in the first half? Wasn’t he near perfect in the second half with “officially correct” inflation?
Your comment that there isn’t “a New Englander alive who is a patriot” is utter and complete bullcrap.
I live in Maine, and while there are moonbats here, especially in around the Portland area of southern Maine, there are plenty of staunch conservatives here and in the five other New England states.
The present day patriots exist in New England, they’re just not in the majority.
Maine, by the way, probably has the most conservative governor in America, Paul LePage, re-elected last November.
Maine’s state government has quite a few conservatives in the Maine House and Maine Senate. Our federal reps leave a great deal to be desired, but a candidate ran for Congress as a conservative last Fall in my area, and was easily elected (Bruce Poliquin).
Also, Maine is on the verge of becoming a “Constitutional Carry” state. No conceal weapon permits will be required or needed when this passes.
I have relatives in Massachusetts who are staunch Republicans and can’t stand Obama.
Then there are the owners of semi-automatic rifles in Connecticut. Only a tiny percentage of those gun owners registered their so-called “assault” weapons after the draconian gun-grabbing laws were passed in Connecticut after Sandy Hook. Those gun owners are patriots.
Please don’t paint everyone in New England with a broad brush. There are men and women here who are fighting the good fight.
Can’t wait to see the Pats blow out the Colts again this year.
I expect that they’ll do better that 45-7, maybe even break the 1966 Redskins record....
You are truly a demented person.
Please seek medical attention.
BTW, didn’t you previously post under Berliner66?
What is so hard about understanding a soft football is easier to grip than a hard one?
The NFL has a problem with Pats and their perceived or real history of cheating.
“Also, Maine is on the verge of becoming a Constitutional Carry state. No conceal weapon permits will be required or needed when this passes.”
Although off topic, this july4thfreedomfoundation is smoking the conservative koolaid on this one.
The Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee recently voted 7-6 on a divided ought not to pass report on Legislative Document 652. LD 652 will now go to the full state Senate for consideration.
While the Maine Senate is controlled by Republicans, the Maine House is controlled by the democrats by 10 with an additional 5 unenrolleds who vote with the democrats.
While I favor having Constitutional Carry, I really do not see this getting passed the Maine House.
Yes, there are Patriots here in Maine, but there are also Patriot fans who fully believe in our leader, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, Jr.
You may be right. But you can be sure of one thing:
The Colts will be checking the ball early & often to make sure everyone not having Brady’s little girl hands can handle it as well.
Also, they will be making sure Deflatriot spys aren’t taping their practice sessions, along with keeping an eye on any number of other “edges” those cheating bastards need to win.
Give me a break. It was 51 degrees at game time. Psi isn't going to be that dramatic of a drop when the temps are well above freezing. Some people are grasping.
(1) How many officials handled these balls?
Only three officials would have likely handled the post-doctored balls...the umpire when he spotted the ball each down for the Pats. And the wings, with the one on the Pats' side handling it more (every first down).
When the head official handled it previous to the game by a few hours, those weren't the doctored balls.
(2) How many plays did the umpire probably handle it?
Probably about 30 or so...based upon the average number of non-special teams' plays the Pats ran in 2014. [Remember, we're talking ONLY about the first half]
(3) Did these officials handle most of the footballs?
In one half? Not likely at all. In fact, they may have handled only 3 or 4 of the balls ... and one ball came out to be within the proper Psi allowance.
Because let's say, you're a wing official...and you touched a Patriot football perhaps 10 times in the first half, where your biggest concern is to quickly underhand a wet ball to a sideline.
(In fact, I think Brady played with low Psi footballs EVERY game and EVERY practice...so it was "perfectly calibrated" for him!)
They should see if they can get Ponder or Tebow to fill the gap.
So, if someone cheats from someone else’s paper, and fails the test because the answers were wrong, it isn’t cheating?
The point is, Brady thought cheating was important enough to win, so to Brady the cheating did cause him to win.
Actually, IF the Patriots regularly have lowered the PSI for EVERY game dating back to 2007, then the lower PSI helped Blount hold onto the ball...and not fumble it...
Category | 2006 NE Season | 2007 NE Season |
Overall fumbles | 31 (27 regular season) | 17 (14 regular season) |
Rushing fumbles by Patriot running backs | 7 (19 games, including 3 playoffs) | 0 (19 games, including 3 playoffs) |
Fumble rate per game | Avg team: 1.5 vs. NE's 1.6 | Avg team: 1.6 vs. NE's 0.8 (Less fumbles by half!) Note: Even indoor based teams averaged 1.55 fumbles per game) |
Brady's Completion % | 61.8% | 68.9% |
Fumbles by Teams Per Game | ||||
2003-2006 NE | 2003-2006 Other 31 teams | 2007-2014 NE | 2007-2014 Other 23 Outdoor teams | 2007-2014 Indoor-based teams (8) |
1.46 | 1.6 | 0.96 [this is improvement of 1 less fumble every 2 games vs. previous NE teams] | 1.46 [this means one more fumble every 2 games than NE] | 1.29 [this means one more fumble every 3 games than NE] |
Left side: NE PLAYER: 07-14 | Right side: NON-NE PLAYER + NE PLAYERS PRE-2007 | |||||||||
NAME | RECEPTIONS | RUSHES | TOUCHES | 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES* | 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES PER TOUCH | RECEPTIONS | RUSHES | TOUCHES | 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES | 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES PER TOUCH |
Wes Welker | 741 | 21 | 762 | 6 relevant (other 6 on special teams) | 1 per 127 | 237 | 1 | 238 | 0 relevant (all 13 on special teams) | Less than 1 per 238 |
Laurence Maroney | 45 | 644 | 689 | 5 | 1 per 138 | 5 | 67 | 72 | 3 | 1 per 24 |
BenJarvus Green-Ellis | 31 | 557 | 588 | 0 | Less than 1 per 588 | 28 | 517 | 545 | 5 | 1 per 109 |
Kevin Faulk | 181 | 252 | 433 | 1 relevant (1 special team) | 1 per 433 | 301 | 700 | 1001 | 20 relevant (4 special teams) | 1 per 50 |
Danny Woodhead | 104 | 285 | 389 | 3 | 1 per 130 | 160 | 95 | 255 | 2 | 1 per 128 |
Sammy Morris | 52 | 335 | 387 | 3 relevant (1 special team) | 1 per 129 | 117 | 402 | 519 | 8 | 1 per 65 |
LaGarrette Blount | 6 | 275 | 281 | 3 | 1 per 94 | 27 | 491 | 518 | All 10 relevant | 1 per 52 |
Randy Moss | 271 | 3 | 274 | All 5 relevant | 1 per 55 | 765 | 23 | 788 | 8 relevant by comparison (3 special teams) | 1 per 98 |
Deion Branch | 130 | 0 | 63 | 0 | Less than 1 per 63 | 452 | 11 | 463 | 1 relevant (2 special teams by comparison) | 1 per 463 |
Fred Taylor | 4 | 108 | 112 | 1 | 1 per 112 | 293 | 2555 | 2848 | All 26 relevant by comparison | 1 per 110 |
Danny Amendola | 90 | 2 | 92 | 0 relevant (1 special team) | Less than 1 per 92 | 196 | 12 | 208 | 5 relevant by comparison (5 special teams) | 1 per 42 |
Ben Watson | 91 | 1 | 92 | 2 | 1 per 46 | 210 | 1 | 211 | 6 | 1 per 35 |
Brandon Lloyd | 86 | 0 | 86 | 0 | Less than 1 per 86 | 325 | 1 | 326 | 4 | 1 per 82 |
Brandon Lafell | 83 | 2 | 85 | 1 | 1 per 85 | 171 | 7 | 178 | 2 | 1 per 89 |
Lamont Jordan | 0 | 80 | 80 | 1 | 1 per 80 | 163 | 856 | 1019 | 7 relevant (1 special team) | 1 per 146 |
Jabar Gaffney | 78 | 0 | 78 | 0 | Less than 1 per 78 | 394 | 9 | 403 | 3 relevant (1 special team) | 1 per 134 |
Heath Evans | 8 | 48 | 56 | 0 | less than 1 per 56 | 59 | 121 | 180 | 3 | 1 per 60 |
Donte Stallworth | 55 | 1 | 56 | 0 | Less than 1 per 56 | 280 | 20 | 300 | 3 relevant (2 special teams) | 1 per 100 |
Brandon Tate | 24 | 6 | 30 | 1 | 1 per 30 | 31 | 4 | 35 | 0 relevant (11 special teams by comparison) | Less than 1 per 35 |
TOTALS | 2080 | 2620 | 4700 | 32 | 1 in 145 | 4214 | 5993 | 10107 | 116 | 1 in 87 |
8 Players' collective totals who had 274+ touches for Patriots | 1431 | 2372 | 3803 | 20 | 1 per 190 | Non-NE or Early NE | 1640 | 2296 | 56 | 1 per 70 |
Actually, IF the Patriots regularly have lowered the PSI for EVERY game dating back to 2007, then the lower PSI helped Blount hold onto the ball...and not fumble it...
People might not want to wade thru the statistical analysis of my last post, so if they want a quick overview of Patriot fumble stats...I kinda think this says it all!
Well, what if I told you that...
It’s more probable than not that something generally occured......what utter bullshit. That can apply to any situation.
NFL FAIL
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