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Report: New England Patriots Worried Tom Brady Could Be Suspended 6-8 Games
CBS ^ | Fri, 08 May 2015 5:18 PM ET | by Jason Butt | CBSSports.com

Posted on 05/09/2015 10:23:18 AM PDT by drewh

The Patriots are concerned that quarterback Tom Brady could face a suspension ranging from six and eight games, according to a report from CSN New England.

Any punishment from the NFL would result from the recent Ted Wells report, which stated "it is more probable than not that Tom Brady was at least generally aware" that footballs were deflated below the league's minimum requirement against the Colts in the AFC Championship.

Following the AFC Championship and leading up to the Super Bowl, Brady told reporters he was confident that no one in the Patriots organization broke any rules. Footballs must be inflated to 12.5 PSI to meet league standards. Footballs tested at halftime in the AFC Championship game were underinflated.

Brady made an appearance at Salem State University as part of a speaker series on Thursday but declined to talk much about the Deflategate controversy.

However, he did answer a question as to whether he thought the Patriots' Super Bowl victory over the Seahawks was tainted as a result to the controversy.

“No, absolutely not," Brady said, via The Boston Globe. "You know, I've dealt with a lot of things in the past, I dealt with this three months ago. I've dealt with a lot of adversity in my career, and I'm fortunate I have so many people that love me and support me, and certainly I accept my role and responsibility as a public figure, a lot of it you take the good with the bad ... We'll get through it.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cheatergate; deflategate; massachusetts; whinewhinewhinewhine
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To: drewh

He should be banned for life.


21 posted on 05/09/2015 11:11:20 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: drewh

Okay, if Brady broke the rules and it’s bad enough to be suspendable . . . then does he get to keep the ring he apparently won as a result of cheating to get there?

Wouldn’t even be an issue though, if Russell Wilson didn’t toss a 3-yard interception at the goal line in the last couple of seconds of the game.


22 posted on 05/09/2015 11:16:21 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: BigCinBigD

“He should be banned for life.”

Should Aaron Rogers be banned for life also?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/20/aaron-rodgers-likes-his-footballs-overinflated/

“‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it,’” Simms said Rodgers told them before the game.


23 posted on 05/09/2015 11:18:31 AM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto

I saw that too. Rogers should be sent to prison and the Green Bay Packer franchise disbanded.


24 posted on 05/09/2015 11:21:25 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Leto

I wouldn’t mind. :)


25 posted on 05/09/2015 11:21:37 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Rockpile

Point is this whole thing is a freaking joke.


26 posted on 05/09/2015 11:26:36 AM PDT by Leto
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To: SamAdams76

It is only because of the altered footballs that NE won. The lower pressure balls were why LaGarette Blount left cleat marks all over the chests of Colt defenders and enabled him to run for 166 yards and four touchdowns.

Maybe the Indy defenders had deflated balls.

Really, I don’t want to see effing Kraft ever win another title but this is ridiculous.

BTW, did not Brady throw the goal line Int in the first half? Wasn’t he near perfect in the second half with “officially correct” inflation?


27 posted on 05/09/2015 11:30:06 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Your comment that there isn’t “a New Englander alive who is a patriot” is utter and complete bullcrap.

I live in Maine, and while there are moonbats here, especially in around the Portland area of southern Maine, there are plenty of staunch conservatives here and in the five other New England states.

The present day patriots exist in New England, they’re just not in the majority.

Maine, by the way, probably has the most conservative governor in America, Paul LePage, re-elected last November.

Maine’s state government has quite a few conservatives in the Maine House and Maine Senate. Our federal reps leave a great deal to be desired, but a candidate ran for Congress as a conservative last Fall in my area, and was easily elected (Bruce Poliquin).

Also, Maine is on the verge of becoming a “Constitutional Carry” state. No conceal weapon permits will be required or needed when this passes.

I have relatives in Massachusetts who are staunch Republicans and can’t stand Obama.

Then there are the owners of semi-automatic rifles in Connecticut. Only a tiny percentage of those gun owners registered their so-called “assault” weapons after the draconian gun-grabbing laws were passed in Connecticut after Sandy Hook. Those gun owners are patriots.

Please don’t paint everyone in New England with a broad brush. There are men and women here who are fighting the good fight.


28 posted on 05/09/2015 11:47:52 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The so-called Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Can’t wait to see the Pats blow out the Colts again this year.

I expect that they’ll do better that 45-7, maybe even break the 1966 Redskins record....


29 posted on 05/09/2015 11:53:53 AM PDT by CTyank
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

You are truly a demented person.
Please seek medical attention.
BTW, didn’t you previously post under Berliner66?


30 posted on 05/09/2015 11:58:27 AM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: drewh
There is one person, who grips the ball tightly every offensive play and can tell the inflation difference...the center.

What is so hard about understanding a soft football is easier to grip than a hard one?

The NFL has a problem with Pats and their perceived or real history of cheating.

31 posted on 05/09/2015 11:59:48 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Due to the high price of ammo, no warning shot will be fired.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

“Also, Maine is on the verge of becoming a “Constitutional Carry” state. No conceal weapon permits will be required or needed when this passes.”

Although off topic, this july4thfreedomfoundation is smoking the conservative koolaid on this one.

The Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee recently voted 7-6 on a divided “ought not to pass” report on Legislative Document 652. LD 652 will now go to the full state Senate for consideration.

While the Maine Senate is controlled by Republicans, the Maine House is controlled by the democrats by 10 with an additional 5 unenrolleds who vote with the democrats.

While I favor having “Constitutional Carry, I really do not see this getting passed the Maine House.

Yes, there are Patriots here in Maine, but there are also Patriot fans who fully believe in our leader, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady, Jr.


32 posted on 05/09/2015 12:05:48 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: CTyank

You may be right. But you can be sure of one thing:
The Colts will be checking the ball early & often to make sure everyone not having Brady’s little girl hands can handle it as well.

Also, they will be making sure Deflatriot spys aren’t taping their practice sessions, along with keeping an eye on any number of other “edges” those cheating bastards need to win.


33 posted on 05/09/2015 12:25:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Leto; All
...test them after the game when they had returned to room temperature.

Give me a break. It was 51 degrees at game time. Psi isn't going to be that dramatic of a drop when the temps are well above freezing. Some people are grasping.

34 posted on 05/09/2015 12:28:24 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: 04-Bravo; All
How many officials handled the game balls without noticing any issue with the pressure?

(1) How many officials handled these balls?

Only three officials would have likely handled the post-doctored balls...the umpire when he spotted the ball each down for the Pats. And the wings, with the one on the Pats' side handling it more (every first down).

When the head official handled it previous to the game by a few hours, those weren't the doctored balls.

(2) How many plays did the umpire probably handle it?

Probably about 30 or so...based upon the average number of non-special teams' plays the Pats ran in 2014. [Remember, we're talking ONLY about the first half]

(3) Did these officials handle most of the footballs?

In one half? Not likely at all. In fact, they may have handled only 3 or 4 of the balls ... and one ball came out to be within the proper Psi allowance.

(4) Why is this question ultimately a diversionary 'rabbit trail' by posters like 04-Bravo?

Because let's say, you're a wing official...and you touched a Patriot football perhaps 10 times in the first half, where your biggest concern is to quickly underhand a wet ball to a sideline.

Here, Brady handled these footballs three times that much in the first half...and he's a 'professional' at it!!! And you're wondering why these officials didn't notice without directing the same question toward Brady?

What? Are you saying that if a major league pitcher was given a plastic t-ball type of ball...and threw that for four or five innings without bringing it to the attention of an umpire...that you ask why the umpires didn't notice, but not the pitcher?

All your very question does is show what kind of cheater Brady is...because for him to play a half minus a perfect calibrated ball that's he used to throwing in 20 games (including preseason) and many more practices than that...and somehow not to notice...is a problematic conclusion. A real pro would notice in warm-ups!!!

(In fact, I think Brady played with low Psi footballs EVERY game and EVERY practice...so it was "perfectly calibrated" for him!)

35 posted on 05/09/2015 12:48:50 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: drewh

They should see if they can get Ponder or Tebow to fill the gap.


36 posted on 05/09/2015 12:49:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: Rockpile

So, if someone cheats from someone else’s paper, and fails the test because the answers were wrong, it isn’t cheating?

The point is, Brady thought cheating was important enough to win, so to Brady the cheating did cause him to win.


37 posted on 05/09/2015 1:04:32 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Rockpile
The lower pressure balls were why LaGarette Blount left cleat marks all over the chests of Colt defenders and enabled him to run for 166 yards and four touchdowns.

Actually, IF the Patriots regularly have lowered the PSI for EVERY game dating back to 2007, then the lower PSI helped Blount hold onto the ball...and not fumble it...

Charting a Snapshot of 'Ballghazi's' 'Ghost': A

Category 2006 NE Season 2007 NE Season
Overall fumbles 31 (27 regular season) 17 (14 regular season)
Rushing fumbles by Patriot running backs 7 (19 games, including 3 playoffs) 0 (19 games, including 3 playoffs)
Fumble rate per game Avg team: 1.5 vs. NE's 1.6 Avg team: 1.6 vs. NE's 0.8 (Less fumbles by half!) Note: Even indoor based teams averaged 1.55 fumbles per game)
Brady's Completion % 61.8% 68.9%

Charting a Snapshot of 'Ballghazi's' 'Ghost': B

Fumbles by Teams Per Game
2003-2006 NE 2003-2006 Other 31 teams 2007-2014 NE 2007-2014 Other 23 Outdoor teams 2007-2014 Indoor-based teams (8)
1.46 1.6 0.96 [this is improvement of 1 less fumble every 2 games vs. previous NE teams] 1.46 [this means one more fumble every 2 games than NE] 1.29 [this means one more fumble every 3 games than NE]

Source for most raw fumbles-per-games stats: NFL Team Fumbles per Game: Per Year 2014 → 2003

Comparing Individual Player Statistics when Playing for New England Patriots 2007-->2014 vs Playing for other NFL teams or playing for the Patriots before 2007

Left side: NE PLAYER: 07-14 Right side: NON-NE PLAYER + NE PLAYERS PRE-2007
NAME RECEPTIONS RUSHES TOUCHES 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES* 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES PER TOUCH RECEPTIONS RUSHES TOUCHES 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES 'RELEVANT' FUMBLES PER TOUCH
Wes Welker 741 21 762 6 relevant (other 6 on special teams) 1 per 127 237 1 238 0 relevant (all 13 on special teams) Less than 1 per 238
Laurence Maroney 45 644 689 5 1 per 138 5 67 72 3 1 per 24
BenJarvus Green-Ellis 31 557 588 0 Less than 1 per 588 28 517 545 5 1 per 109
Kevin Faulk 181 252 433 1 relevant (1 special team) 1 per 433 301 700 1001 20 relevant (4 special teams) 1 per 50
Danny Woodhead 104 285 389 3 1 per 130 160 95 255 2 1 per 128
Sammy Morris 52 335 387 3 relevant (1 special team) 1 per 129 117 402 519 8 1 per 65
LaGarrette Blount 6 275 281 3 1 per 94 27 491 518 All 10 relevant 1 per 52
Randy Moss 271 3 274 All 5 relevant 1 per 55 765 23 788 8 relevant by comparison (3 special teams) 1 per 98
Deion Branch 130 0 63 0 Less than 1 per 63 452 11 463 1 relevant (2 special teams by comparison) 1 per 463
Fred Taylor 4 108 112 1 1 per 112 293 2555 2848 All 26 relevant by comparison 1 per 110
Danny Amendola 90 2 92 0 relevant (1 special team) Less than 1 per 92 196 12 208 5 relevant by comparison (5 special teams) 1 per 42
Ben Watson 91 1 92 2 1 per 46 210 1 211 6 1 per 35
Brandon Lloyd 86 0 86 0 Less than 1 per 86 325 1 326 4 1 per 82
Brandon Lafell 83 2 85 1 1 per 85 171 7 178 2 1 per 89
Lamont Jordan 0 80 80 1 1 per 80 163 856 1019 7 relevant (1 special team) 1 per 146
Jabar Gaffney 78 0 78 0 Less than 1 per 78 394 9 403 3 relevant (1 special team) 1 per 134
Heath Evans 8 48 56 0 less than 1 per 56 59 121 180 3 1 per 60
Donte Stallworth 55 1 56 0 Less than 1 per 56 280 20 300 3 relevant (2 special teams) 1 per 100
Brandon Tate 24 6 30 1 1 per 30 31 4 35 0 relevant (11 special teams by comparison) Less than 1 per 35
TOTALS 2080 2620 4700 32 1 in 145 4214 5993 10107 116 1 in 87
8 Players' collective totals who had 274+ touches for Patriots 1431 2372 3803 20 1 per 190 Non-NE or Early NE 1640 2296 56 1 per 70
Note: Relevant' Fumbles Defined: Fumbles committed while rushing the ball or after reception – not special teams' fumbles.
38 posted on 05/09/2015 1:10:16 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Rockpile; All
The lower pressure balls were why LaGarette Blount left cleat marks all over the chests of Colt defenders and enabled him to run for 166 yards and four touchdowns.

Actually, IF the Patriots regularly have lowered the PSI for EVERY game dating back to 2007, then the lower PSI helped Blount hold onto the ball...and not fumble it...

People might not want to wade thru the statistical analysis of my last post, so if they want a quick overview of Patriot fumble stats...I kinda think this says it all!

Well, what if I told you that...

...the Patriots' DEFENSE fumbled the ball...

...more often in (take your pick which of these following seasons) – 2003, 2002, 2001, 1999 than the Patriots' running backs did rushing the ball in 2007 – even including all three playoff games?

...Or their DEFENSE fumbled the ball as often in 2001 as the Patriots' running backs did rushing the ball for the entire 2007 and 2008 seasons combined (35 games including three playoff games)?!

...Or their DEFENSE fumbled the ball as much combining regular seasons 1999-2003 as did the Patriots running backs' rushing the ball combining regular seasons 2007-2008 and 2010-2011?


39 posted on 05/09/2015 1:13:19 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: drewh

It’s more probable than not that something generally occured......what utter bullshit. That can apply to any situation.
NFL FAIL


40 posted on 05/09/2015 1:25:35 PM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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