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Water fleas genetically adapt to climate change
Phys.Org - Science X Network ^ | May 11, 2015

Posted on 05/11/2015 11:26:54 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: JimSEA

“When an isolated sub population can no longer breed with the larger population, you have speciation by definition. “- js

Not exactly - Different species have actual differences in genetics and behavior.

If I seperate out a colony of white rats, and prevent them from interbreeding with any other rats, have I created a new species? Simply no.

-And without further mutation, they will *always* be the same species of rat as the original, and be capable of interbreeding.


21 posted on 05/12/2015 10:16:29 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: JimSEA

What can I do to end this?

Ok, I figured it out.

You win - Man made global warming made the fleas evolve. You and the good professor should report to Stockholm to collect your Nobel prizes.

:-)


22 posted on 05/12/2015 10:25:30 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

The ability to breed successfully, producing fertile offspring is an essential definition of species. A finch will always produce a finch but over generations, one population of finch may no longer successfully breed with another. Horses and burros are close relatives but different species with the mule offspring only very rarely being fertile.

BTW there are several separate “rat” species.


23 posted on 05/12/2015 10:34:01 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

You win - Man made global warming made the fleas evolve. You and the good professor should report to Stockholm to collect your Nobel prizes.

:-)


24 posted on 05/12/2015 10:45:00 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: JimSEA

BTW - horses and burrows have different numbers of chromosomes, a *huge* genetic difference.

but -

You win - Man made global warming made the fleas evolve. You and the good professor should report to Stockholm to collect your Nobel prizes.

:-)


25 posted on 05/12/2015 10:59:39 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

Thank you for the prize. BTW I’ve not said a thing about man made global warming which remains in question but there are constant climate changes. El Niño, when the current is so configured does produce climate changes in adjacent land areas. I not aware that it is man caused.


26 posted on 05/12/2015 11:12:46 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Triple

BTW chimps and humans have different numbers of chromosomes as well although we share a distant relative with them about seven million years ago. It seems that somewhere along the way two chromosomes which apes have became fused together in humans with no loss in functionality.


27 posted on 05/12/2015 11:17:30 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

“It seems that somewhere along the way two chromosomes which apes have became fused together in humans with no loss in functionality.” - JS

Really, now is that history, or the scientific method that leads you to that little gem?

oh - never mind.


28 posted on 05/12/2015 12:57:27 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
The clearest explanation is the Wikipedia entry..
29 posted on 05/12/2015 3:03:53 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Triple

Biology 101.


30 posted on 05/12/2015 3:16:48 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

So, you are saying there is this massive chromosomal mutation punctuating the evolution from chimp to human.

Yea for you. You finally get it. Genetic drift didn’t do it. Allele frequency changes do not mark the differences. Massive chromosomal change marks the difference.


31 posted on 05/13/2015 4:26:04 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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1. Humans and chimps share a common ancestor. Humans have not evolved from chimps.

It is not necessary to use the pejorative “massive” when the combination of chromosomes doesn’t result in the loss of function or information.


32 posted on 05/13/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

ok - have a nice day!


33 posted on 05/13/2015 8:35:25 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When we hatch the dormant eggs of water fleas from the past and compare them with the contemporary population, we can reconstruct the evolutionary changes that occurred in that population and examine how they have adapted to the rising temperature of the water in which they live.

We're not supposed to notice the assumption of temperature (and, further, global warming) related causation of any observed changes...

34 posted on 05/13/2015 8:43:30 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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