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Ammo Test: DoubleTap 9mm 77-grain Lead-free for Compact Handguns
mygunculture.com ^ | 5/15/2015 | Tom McHale

Posted on 05/16/2015 10:07:41 AM PDT by rktman

Do you suffer from a short barrel? Unfortunately, this problem afflicts millions of gun totin’ Americans.

With the explosive growth of pocket .380 ACP pistols like the Kel-Tec, Ruger LCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard and Glock 42, just to name a few, gun makers just had to up the power level as their next move. .380’s are still everywhere, but now we have a new crop of compact 9mm guns. Whether you carry a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield, Beretta Nano, Sig P938 or one of the many other pocket nine’s, you’re probably dealing with a short barrel. And by short barrel, I mean right in the vicinity of three inches.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; progunners; secondamendment
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For CCW folks, maybe this could be a suitable round for you folks with the smaller 9s. Maybe I'll need to try some in the M&P Shield.
1 posted on 05/16/2015 10:07:41 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Interesting...


2 posted on 05/16/2015 10:10:54 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: rktman

Sorry folks. The entire article can be found here:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ammo-test-doubletap-9mm-77-grain-for-compact-handguns/


3 posted on 05/16/2015 10:17:57 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: rktman

Just go to Guns America if you want to read the full review.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ammo-test-doubletap-9mm-77-grain-for-compact-handguns/


4 posted on 05/16/2015 10:18:35 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rktman

For later. I’ve done some testing of my own and it’s going to be hard to beat Critical Defense.


5 posted on 05/16/2015 10:23:52 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: smokingfrog

LOL! Yeah. See #3 post. As I read down I saw the article continued at the gunsAmerica link. DOH!


6 posted on 05/16/2015 10:27:30 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Sounds interesting. May try this out. I hav... errr used to have prior to the accident a Kel-Tec PF-11. It ate standard white box 9mm ok as well as Silvertip HP. I used to call it “Lil Trayvon”


7 posted on 05/16/2015 10:36:49 AM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

tnoutdoors9 I think did an evaluation and used the standard four layers of denim over the gel. He didn’t get as good a penetration from his Glock.


8 posted on 05/16/2015 10:39:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Polynikes
Ouch!😊
9 posted on 05/16/2015 10:55:30 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: CrazyIvan

My thoughts too. Sometimes the smaller or more pointy bullets don’t feed right either.


10 posted on 05/16/2015 11:53:31 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Federal 9mm HST +P LE/Tactical 124 gr.


11 posted on 05/16/2015 12:00:28 PM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: rktman; smokingfrog

This Liberty 9mm Ammo 50gr +p is even faster at 2000+fps and a more devastating wound channel.

http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/Liberty-Civil-Defense-9mm-50-Gr-P-Lead-Free-Ammo-p/liberty9.htm

I’ve been using Liberty 78gr in my 5” Kimbers, at 1900fps (v 950fps), noticeably-reduced recoil, but LOUD as open headers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPRigrtzNt0


12 posted on 05/16/2015 12:43:38 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: carriage_hill

YowZa


13 posted on 05/16/2015 12:48:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rktman

For years, the .380 (9mm Kurtz) was seen as just under the edge, or just right, for pocket pistols, i.e., pocket semi-autos including the old standby Walther that James Bond carried. There were Luger P-08 frames chambered in .380.

The 9mm Parabellum cartridge was initially designed to be used in 4-inch barreled P-08 Luger pistols.

The old-standby .380 rounds were standard FMJ’s. Why? There were no legal needs to satisfy with hollow points, and the rounds always fed into the chambers, due to the ogive of the bullet. The size and frames of these pistols were not ‘service’ design, but were within the firing range known as bad breath distances, like their American cousins, the snubnose revolvers.

Having owned a snubnose chambered for 9mm para, after 50 rounds on the range, I was done. As a CCW, 5 shots of 9mm P. from a shorter than designed barrel, did ‘rob’ some of the physics away from the projectile ballistics, although the accuracy was there. I’ve since gone on to a snubby .38 Special.

I won’t argue which firearm, which grainage bullet, but I will leave you with this tidbit. John Moses Browning (ave’), in designing what came to be the P-35/Browning Hi Power 1935, had as his objective, a pistol firing 124 grained 9mm Parabellum bullets from a 4.35 inch barrel, to an accuracy to within the diameter of a present-day 12 ounce coffee mug, at 65 yards, with enough energy to drop a man.

Now, put that ballistic inside a smaller than 4-inch barreled firearm, and hang on to it.


14 posted on 05/16/2015 12:53:03 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: rktman

Just hide in a corner and call 911. Only crazy people and clumsy boaters have guns.....


15 posted on 05/16/2015 1:05:11 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: carriage_hill

“LOUD as open headers.” Like on a AA/FD? Now them’s some open headers. Woo HOO!


16 posted on 05/16/2015 1:14:28 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Organic Panic

“clumsy boaters have guns.....” NO, NO, NO. Clumsy boaters no longer have guns. :>} That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it. There we were in our 18ft skiff fishing the Mariana Trench......................


17 posted on 05/16/2015 1:17:25 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: smokingfrog; rktman

Here’s a bad motorscooter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYLbmSp5itA


18 posted on 05/16/2015 1:18:28 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: rktman

My carry pieces are all stocked with RIP rounds short barrel or not.


19 posted on 05/16/2015 1:33:10 PM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: CrazyIvan

I’m carrying the Civil Defense 90 grain in .45 ACP. It’s doing about 1,800 fps out of my XDS. You read that right. Recoil is very manageable and it takes 6 ounces off the carry weight.

L


20 posted on 05/16/2015 1:37:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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