Posted on 05/16/2015 10:07:41 AM PDT by rktman
Do you suffer from a short barrel? Unfortunately, this problem afflicts millions of gun totin Americans.
With the explosive growth of pocket .380 ACP pistols like the Kel-Tec, Ruger LCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard and Glock 42, just to name a few, gun makers just had to up the power level as their next move. .380s are still everywhere, but now we have a new crop of compact 9mm guns. Whether you carry a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield, Beretta Nano, Sig P938 or one of the many other pocket nines, youre probably dealing with a short barrel. And by short barrel, I mean right in the vicinity of three inches.
(Excerpt) Read more at mygunculture.com ...
Interesting...
Sorry folks. The entire article can be found here:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ammo-test-doubletap-9mm-77-grain-for-compact-handguns/
Just go to Guns America if you want to read the full review.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ammo-test-doubletap-9mm-77-grain-for-compact-handguns/
For later. I’ve done some testing of my own and it’s going to be hard to beat Critical Defense.
LOL! Yeah. See #3 post. As I read down I saw the article continued at the gunsAmerica link. DOH!
Sounds interesting. May try this out. I hav... errr used to have prior to the accident a Kel-Tec PF-11. It ate standard white box 9mm ok as well as Silvertip HP. I used to call it “Lil Trayvon”
tnoutdoors9 I think did an evaluation and used the standard four layers of denim over the gel. He didn’t get as good a penetration from his Glock.
My thoughts too. Sometimes the smaller or more pointy bullets don’t feed right either.
Federal 9mm HST +P LE/Tactical 124 gr.
This Liberty 9mm Ammo 50gr +p is even faster at 2000+fps and a more devastating wound channel.
http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/Liberty-Civil-Defense-9mm-50-Gr-P-Lead-Free-Ammo-p/liberty9.htm
I’ve been using Liberty 78gr in my 5” Kimbers, at 1900fps (v 950fps), noticeably-reduced recoil, but LOUD as open headers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPRigrtzNt0
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For years, the .380 (9mm Kurtz) was seen as just under the edge, or just right, for pocket pistols, i.e., pocket semi-autos including the old standby Walther that James Bond carried. There were Luger P-08 frames chambered in .380.
The 9mm Parabellum cartridge was initially designed to be used in 4-inch barreled P-08 Luger pistols.
The old-standby .380 rounds were standard FMJ’s. Why? There were no legal needs to satisfy with hollow points, and the rounds always fed into the chambers, due to the ogive of the bullet. The size and frames of these pistols were not ‘service’ design, but were within the firing range known as bad breath distances, like their American cousins, the snubnose revolvers.
Having owned a snubnose chambered for 9mm para, after 50 rounds on the range, I was done. As a CCW, 5 shots of 9mm P. from a shorter than designed barrel, did ‘rob’ some of the physics away from the projectile ballistics, although the accuracy was there. I’ve since gone on to a snubby .38 Special.
I won’t argue which firearm, which grainage bullet, but I will leave you with this tidbit. John Moses Browning (ave’), in designing what came to be the P-35/Browning Hi Power 1935, had as his objective, a pistol firing 124 grained 9mm Parabellum bullets from a 4.35 inch barrel, to an accuracy to within the diameter of a present-day 12 ounce coffee mug, at 65 yards, with enough energy to drop a man.
Now, put that ballistic inside a smaller than 4-inch barreled firearm, and hang on to it.
Just hide in a corner and call 911. Only crazy people and clumsy boaters have guns.....
“LOUD as open headers.” Like on a AA/FD? Now them’s some open headers. Woo HOO!
“clumsy boaters have guns.....” NO, NO, NO. Clumsy boaters no longer have guns. :>} That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it. There we were in our 18ft skiff fishing the Mariana Trench......................
My carry pieces are all stocked with RIP rounds short barrel or not.
I’m carrying the Civil Defense 90 grain in .45 ACP. It’s doing about 1,800 fps out of my XDS. You read that right. Recoil is very manageable and it takes 6 ounces off the carry weight.
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