[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Why is this our problem?"

We won the war and Obama lost the peace. The best way to defeat an enemy is to make them our allay. We were well on the way to that when Bush left office. That is all down the drain. If we desert them, someone will be in there. It might be someone that you don't want there (Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia). It will spiral out of control to something that none of us can fathom. We are already having a nuclear arms race shape up in the region. Do we want to pile on top of it? If we don't stop this insanity, who knows where it leads to. The shame of it is it could have all been so easily avoided.

[Lorianne]

Won what war?
We sided with the Shias and ISLAMIC sect over the Sunnis, another ISLAMIC sect.

Is that the team we are on? We’re fighting for the Shia?

Look I just want an honest answer as to why we should support on sect of ISLAM over another.

[Beowulf9]

yeah, but on the other hand we elected the first black president!

Now we have to elect the first woman president.

Those are the important things.

After the first woman president is done we elect Ru Paul.