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Trigger warning: 10 shocking truths about gun violence
theguardian.com ^ | 5/18/2015 | Iain Overton

Posted on 05/19/2015 7:52:40 AM PDT by rktman

This weekend’s shootout between rival biker gangs in Waco, Texas has reopened the debate about gun control in the US. But experience shows this is the only country in the world that reacts to mass shootings by relaxing gun laws

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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Oh where oh where to begin? The 8 million times more likely to have a suicide if there's a gun in the house? The list goes on and on and on. But, the IPOS/SPOS/LPOS/UPOS will buy the lies hook line and lead sinker.
1 posted on 05/19/2015 7:52:40 AM PDT by rktman
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...this is the only country in the world that reacts to mass shootings by relaxing gun laws...

And so there is where I stopped reading.

Liberal horse shit.

2 posted on 05/19/2015 7:54:12 AM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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“relaxing gun laws”. Should read “abolishing gun laws”.


3 posted on 05/19/2015 7:55:15 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Gun laws have been relaxed?

Who knew?

The one thing that stops a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.

Stopping the trajectory of bullets with your body is so unrewarding.


4 posted on 05/19/2015 7:57:03 AM PDT by alloysteel ("Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement..." Ronald Reagan)
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And only liberals would thing a gun battle between the police and OUTLAW BIKER GANGS has any bearing on the question of whether or not you should disarm honest citizens.


5 posted on 05/19/2015 7:57:08 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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I walked into a cafe down in Texas and saw a sign on the door. Because that establishment sold alcohol it was a FELONY to carry an unlicensed concealed hand gun onto the property, then gave the warning about how many years you could get if convicted.

Wonder if those bikers had “legal” concealed carry permits for their weapons.


6 posted on 05/19/2015 8:00:09 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Some times you need more than six shots. Much more.)
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The Liberal answer to a shootout between criminal gangs is to push for disarmament of lawful citizens.

7 posted on 05/19/2015 8:00:45 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: thorvaldr

Remember, with sheeperals, the actual solving of a problem is irrelevant.

The goal is achieved when the liberal feels good about himself for advocating that something be done.


8 posted on 05/19/2015 8:02:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

The lib media has been trotting out the same BS for many decades every time there is a so called gun debate for any reason. Most Americans have quit believing most of their same old lies.


9 posted on 05/19/2015 8:03:17 AM PDT by umgud (I never capitalize; muslim, islam or allah)
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"In the US, with almost as many guns as there are people, gun suicides account for the majority of all suicides – more than 20,000 a year. "

There were 27,283 suicides in Japan in 2013, and it's a much smaller country. And there are no guns in Japan that are in private hands.

10 posted on 05/19/2015 8:09:29 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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So how many of those bikers were legally concealed carry holders, and were not prohibited persons due to drug use or prior felony convictions? Zero? Thought so.

So let's add more laws to punish the law abiding because the current laws are ignored by, wait for it, law breakers.

11 posted on 05/19/2015 8:14:05 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Silly notion. After all it’s just (the one word usage) commonsense. Maybe the law makers should “re-double” their efforts. So, does “re-double” mean work 4 times as hard or that they never did anything in the first place.


12 posted on 05/19/2015 8:17:02 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Considering the Guardian is a far left British rag, it will continue to publish criticisms of America no matter what. It should be noted that British citizens can’t own a pistol and the crime rates have exploded since their bans on weapons.....you can’t even carry a pocketknife with a three inch blade. People are leaving England in droves and moving to France where at least a third of the population are armed—contrary to popular belief.


13 posted on 05/19/2015 8:19:09 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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What this idiot just PROVED is that with or without guns, suicidal people commit suicide! DUH!

The only other thing this idiot PROVED was that Liberals can use ANY situation to attack individual Freedoms! Shoot-out between LAWFULLY armed Cops and UNLAWFULLY armed Bikers = we need to strip the gun rights from those who wish to arm themselves LAWFULLY!

To NORMAL thinking people, such asinine thoughts would be shameful, but we are not talking about “normal” nor “thinking” people here! This is the knee-jerk, heart-string, “feeling” people!


14 posted on 05/19/2015 8:48:14 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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The laws say the bikers may not get in gun fights.

The bikers get in a gun fights.

The law makers make more laws.


15 posted on 05/19/2015 8:49:33 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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Perhaps the Guardian will propose tougher anti-rumble laws....

Bwahahahahahahaahahahahaha..... *wipes tears*

That was good...

16 posted on 05/19/2015 9:09:08 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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"But experience shows this is the only country in the world that reacts to mass shootings by relaxing gun laws."

And yet, we're far from the top of the list of most violent countries in the world...we don't even top the list of industrialized nations.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

17 posted on 05/19/2015 9:14:41 AM PDT by wku man ("Weenie in a Hybrid" by 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdLDSB_6gY)
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Not a single static about how many of those tragic deaths are inflicted on un armed populace by both governments and armed radicals bent on death and destruction. I would venture to guess that that statistic is WAY lower in the US and countries whose freedoms the US has protected for decades than it is elsewhere in the world. Even at the height of the GWII, fewer Iraqis were getting killed on averagae daily than when under Saddam’s rule, and that was a hot mess by any one’s standards.


18 posted on 05/19/2015 9:20:03 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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I bet all those bikers would turn in their guns for a $100 gift certificate at Foot Locker. Yeah... That’s it.

And no, we don’t react to gun violence by relaxing gun laws. We relax gun laws in response to a thugocracy elected in 2008. There is no doubt in my mind Obama has the same blood lust of POl Pot and Stalin and would use the same methods to control even more.


19 posted on 05/19/2015 9:22:42 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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Idiots shouldn’t be left alone with statistics.


20 posted on 05/19/2015 9:24:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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