Posted on 05/20/2015 9:26:41 PM PDT by FR_addict
ROME, May 19, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- Pope Francis has appointed radically liberal, pro-homosexual Dominican Father Timothy Radcliffe as a consultor for the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.
The Holy Father made the appointment on Saturday, according to Vatican Radio.
Father Radcliffe, an Englishman, author and speaker, was Master of the Dominican order from 1992 to 2001, and is an outspoken proponent of homosexuality.
"We must accompany [gay people] as they discern what this means, letting our images be stretched open,” he said in a 2006 religious education lecture in Los Angeles. “This means watching 'Brokeback Mountain,' reading gay novels, living with our gay friends and listening with them as they listen to the Lord."
In 2005, as the Vatican deliberated the admission of men with homosexual tendencies to study for the priesthood in the wake of the Church sex abuse scandal, Father Radcliffe said that homosexuality should not bar men from the priesthood, and rather, those who oppose it should be banned. ...
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Shame on you for using a liberal slur invented to ridicule those who believe in the Word of G-d.
“The Holy Father is only a man, and is limited in how much he can know about any and every appointment,” Father Nicholson wrote. “His primary language is Spanish and perhaps he has not been sufficiently briefed. And that may be done intentionally by those around him.”
You are correct...the above does not wash at all. The above is the type of excuse NCOs make for their weak officers. It is a sign Francis is either a weak or clueless leader or fully aware of the appointments...and dismissals. Senior leaders in the Army don't make appointments of senior staff without knowing the officer or vetting them before hand. An organization as global and large as the Vatican is no different. Nicholson is just blowing smoke.
Not to pick on Catholics, because other Christians do this, too. Homosexuality isn't wrong "because God says it is," it is wrong because it is intrinsically evil.
Sure. But let Luther get MARRIED to a WOMAN even, and all FRoman Catholic hell breaks loose.
“Mistranslation” in his appointment of this apostate?
I still personally believe he wasn't given the choice.
Non need to apologize.
If the pope is elected by just men, and not men led by the Holy Spirit, then the pope can not legitimately be considered the vicar of Christ and the head of the Catholic church.
No he was just given a special confidence and appointment by the Pope.
The Pope, in appointing someone, is not endorsing everything that person does or says.
The Roman Catholic LifeSite News frankly disagrees with you. And frankly the above comment is quite naive. The very hallmark of Radcliffe is his open support for homosexuals. If you think these things are done in the Vatican in a vacuum, then once again that would be naive.
Remember, Pope Francis dismissed a traditional pro-life Cardinal from his post:
Pro-life leaders shocked by removal of Cardinal Burke from important Vatican post
LOL it's a Catholic site. Go to the site. That's right shoot the messenger works...LOL
You mean the Pope did not appointment him as reported? Or that Radcliffe was misquoted? Or both? LifeSite News is a Pro-Life conservative news organization. Most of the articles they post are positive towards the Catholic church.
Brokeback Mountain showing every Friday night at the Vatican! All they need is a few alter boys to serve drinks... Good grief, haven’t they learned anything?
Assuming that Jesus meant Peter (which no one has ever "plainly" proved), please tell us where:
1. Peter is described as a "pope".
2. An unbroken line of so-called successor "popes" is described or promised by Jesus.
3. The Roman Catholic cult is named by Jesus as the owner of this "line".
4. Why according to the New Catholic Encyclopedia, "...it must be frankly admitted that bias or deficiencies in the sources make it impossible to determine in certain cases whether the claimants were popes or anti-popes"? It is plain that the RC cult has multiple lists of the hypothetically "fornicating" successors.
5. If they are appointed by Jesus, why the whore Theodora of Rome and her daughter Marozia brought Anastasius III and Lando to your thrones?
6. The Roman Cult cannot even make sense of the epistles to which they lay claim, where it plainly says according to Paul that the choice of the rescued lies in God's hands...not through some self-aggrandizing, self-promoting, self-congratulating homemade religion, like Rome?
Given that I taught theology to several of the Life Site writers, know many of the others very well—shortly after posing my comment I headed off to Mass and saw John Henry Westen, and have at times served as a consultant for them on theological issues, I think I am in a little bit better position to know the mind of Life Site.
The Pope makes tons of appointments. Radcliffe is about one of nearly 70 people appointed to this particular council, and there are loads of councils. Between these sorts of appointments and appointing bishops, the Pope is nominally responsible for thousands of positions—somewhere between six and eight thousand. This appointment is among the bottom tier. If the Pope had appointed him head of CDF, or Papal Theologian (a position traditionally held by a Dominican), I would be a bit more perturbed.
It makes a good story, but as grounds for leaving the Church, it only works if one has a very non-Catholic understanding of infallibility.
It makes a good story, but as grounds for leaving the Church, which was what the post I was responding to was advocating, it only works if one has a very non-Catholic understanding of infallibility.
The Pope makes tons of appointments. Radcliffe is about one of nearly 70 people appointed to this particular council, and there are loads of councils. Between these sorts of appointments and appointing bishops, the Pope is nominally responsible for thousands of positions—somewhere between six and eight thousand. This appointment is among the bottom tier. If the Pope had appointed him head of CDF, or Papal Theologian (a position traditionally held by a Dominican), I would be a bit more perturbed.
Radcliffe is a former head of the Dominicans. It wouldn’t surprise me if Francis was given his name on a list with this qualification, a bit of a bio, and little else. I may very well know more about Radcliffe in some ways than the Pope. The Pope may or may not have done his homework thoroughly, but very often a former head of the Dominicans would be appointed archbishop of someplace or other—being in a relatively unimportant post in what amounts to a 70 person think-tank could very well be a polite way of keeping him busy in a relatively innocuous post.
I would think the Pope would realize that this man is controversial because of the fact that EWTN would not cover a youth conference last year because this priest was scheduled to speak. So it's not like this priest is quiet about his views, if EWTN objected to this man before the appointment, believing this priest to be at “sharp variance to Catholic teaching.”
I doubt very much that the Pope has read every word that Radcliffe has spewed forth, nor would I expect him to do so before appointing him to what is in fact a very inconsequential position. He is one of a group of people who talk to another group of people who might get around to writing something that very few people will bother to read and which carries very little weight.
I wouldn’t have made the appointment, but I know someone who attended Mass at Blackfriars while at Oxford, which may be more personal knowledge than the Pope had. The guy does have a reasonably impressive resume—not everyone has been head of a religious order numbering in the thousands—and if one is appointing him to the Vatican equivalent of bat boy, isn’t it more important to spend time elsewhere? I’d be much more concerned about the latest two appointments as auxiliaries in Brooklyn, but I’m not losing any sleep over that one either. (One was born in Poland, which is probably a good sign.)
Someone can’t count very high. Especially if one is counting children begotten after election to the Papal throne. I know of some that were begotten before, but none come to mind begotten after.
It looks like he really said this.
I found the following below at
Women Priests, Gay Sex, and Communion for the Re-Married: Is Fr. Timothy Radcliffe an appropriate speaker for Flame2 Youth Conference 2015?
http://faithinourfamilies.com/2014/11/25/women-priests-gay-sex-and-communion-for-the-re-married-is-fr-timothy-radcliffe-an-appropriate-speaker-for-flame2-youth-conference-2015/
“...Fr Radcliffe also gave a keynote address to a US religious education conference, in which he was reported as saying: “We accompany people in friendship as they become moral agents. Let’s look at the gays. For some reason–I don’t actually understand why–it’s become a very hot topic in all the churches at the moment. It’s tearing the Church of England apart. It’s the cause of great dissension in our own church. Usually when we think about it, we ask, ‘What is forbidden or permitted?’ But I’m afraid I’m an old-fashioned and traditional Catholic, and I believe that’s the wrong place to start. We begin by standing by gay people as they hear the voice of the Lord that summons them to life and happiness. We accompany them as they wrestle with discovering what this means and how they must walk. And this means letting our imaginations be stretched open to watching Brokeback Mountain, reading gay novels, having gay friends, making that leap of the heart and the mind, delighting in their being, listening with them as they listen to the Lord.”...”
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