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Are gays ‘born that way’? Most Americans now say yes, but science says no
LifeSite News ^ | May 20, 2015

Posted on 05/21/2015 8:09:52 AM PDT by xzins

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To: Ancesthntr
The "born that way" thesis is factually false based on the simplest of genetics principles. Therefore, it MUST be behavioral, which means that the mental conditions underlying it can be treated in some fashion.

Maybe not so much. First of all, biologists are looking at "epigenetic" factors now, trait variations that aren't related to specific genes. Prenatal conditions in the womb may also play a role.

Secondly, one would have to have a lot of faith in psychotherapy (if that's what it you mean by treatment) to think that it can change people's orientation in most cases. Therapy has a pretty sketchy record dealing with things that are a lot less ingrained.

I'd have to say that homosexuality is something that's determined after people are born, but that there are a lot of different factors involved so that it can't be pinned down to one source or have one simple cure.

61 posted on 05/21/2015 1:57:39 PM PDT by x
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To: Popman
I don't believe that number...

Public Schools have been very busy propagandizing your kids, teachers either get on board or change professions.

62 posted on 05/21/2015 5:00:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: arbitrary.squid; wagglebee; TheOldLady
Homosexual anal sex is no more harmful than heterosexual anal sex, and there’s plenty of heterosexual anal sex going on. I’m not a fan of it, but some people are. Oral or digital sex between people of the same sex or different sex is no more harmful one way or another. I’ve known literally hundreds of gay people in my life. I worked for years in restaurants and I’ve never been afraid of them. Not once have I ever been “recruited”. My relationship with Nature’s God is none of your concern.

Actually, anal sex is dangerous for biological and physical reasons to any practitioner. I know homosexuals who have recruited children....children. Believe it or not, your relationship with Nature's God is a concern of mine, but not for the reasons you think. However, that is why I mentioned the physical, biological, mental, emotional, social, and death reasons for homosexuality being a danger to a community and a neighborhood.

63 posted on 05/21/2015 5:05:50 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fwdude

Sometimes it seems there are an awful lot of them.


64 posted on 05/21/2015 5:15:46 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ancesthntr
As a result, THERE IS SIMPLY NO WAY THAT THERE IS A “GAY GENE” (or a complex of them). This is behavior, folks, no two ways about it.

Think about the Honey Bee, Ancesthntr.

The Worker Bees are sterile (same or even more-pronounced reproductive disadvantage than homosexuality). Yet their near-relative, the Queen Bee, thrives - indeed, she benefits from the fact that her siblings or half-siblings never reproduce, since all of their energy resources are devoted to her (rather than to any hypothetical offspring the Workers might otherwise have had). And she passes that tendency (sterility) on to her offspring.

Your categorical denial of the possible existence of a "gay gene" doesn't hold water.

Regards,

P.S.: I, personally, have no view on the possible inheritability of homosexual tendencies.

65 posted on 05/21/2015 9:20:26 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Or very good PR.

66 posted on 05/21/2015 10:16:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: bigbob

Why do heterosexuals insist on continuing to create gay offspring?


67 posted on 05/22/2015 10:51:09 AM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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