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I have a son in Cub Scouts and don't agree with Gates. And if the Boy Scouts do allow religious groups to exclude gays from leadership positions, that won't satisfy the homosexuals either.

How did an unhealthy lifestyle attain such political dominance? I don't get it.

1 posted on 05/21/2015 10:42:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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Some constituents have more influence in politics, business and academia than other constituents. As the economic situation continues to change, the influence gap is widening. The more influential constituents, for the most part, are not socially conservative.


25 posted on 05/21/2015 11:03:39 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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My thoughts, first, the sexual revolution of the 60’s gave birth to a culture that embraced the idea that sexual intercourse was first and foremost for pleasure with pregnancy a consequence to be mostly avoided...once it became acceptable to have sex outside of marriage, all pleasurable perversions became acceptable.

Second, Western culture has lost its sense of sin. The numbers of people in Western society who attend church service regularly is abysmally small. Ask people to name and explain the 10 commandments and you would be horrified. In it’s place we have moral relativism which makes everything acceptable depending on your point of view.

Finally, there is always a sense of pleasure in the taboo... as everything sexual becomes acceptable it requires a greater depravity to achieve the thrill associated with sexual deviancy and our downward, evil death wish continues.


28 posted on 05/21/2015 11:04:39 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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What could possibly go wrong?


29 posted on 05/21/2015 11:06:03 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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The other shoe drops.


30 posted on 05/21/2015 11:06:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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They need to put an end to this blanket ban on pedophiles as well! Bring back all those leaders who molested children who have completed their jail sentences (and absolutely restore all those who never served a moment in jail but were accused (and the Boy Scouts paid out settlements for) of such crimes..), and end this national nightmare of keeping boys from properly learning the Boy Scout experience! Least that’s the only thing the 2% minority will accept.

I can’t believe how much impact the 2% have on the organization. End ALL corporate Boy Scouts offices, end any full time Council positions. Close all offices, revoke any retirement benefits, etc. The only things that should be left should be scout huts run by local troops and camps which are paid for by confederations of troops. END the entire money train from corporate America into the Boy Scouts where they can continue to withhold funds to ‘pressure for change.’

Because the national council is selling the Boy Scouts piece by piece to the 2%, and that is a national crime.


31 posted on 05/21/2015 11:09:07 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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How did an unhealthy lifestyle attain such political dominance? I don't get it.

That's actually a great question. I've thought a lot about it myself. Does every stable/rich society inevitably plant the seeds of its own corruption and destruction? Is it some kind of large natural cycle for humanity?

I DO know, this whole gay thing is a fad. Other societies in history have gone through the same. It will pass when present conditions change. But doesn't mean things will be better either.

32 posted on 05/21/2015 11:09:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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BSA alternative: Trail Life USA
33 posted on 05/21/2015 11:10:38 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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Ask the clown:

“Why is it so important to you to set up our sons for molestation and recruitment?”


37 posted on 05/21/2015 11:14:56 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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“we must deal with the world as it is, not as we might wish it to be,”

Translated: "There are many thousands of lustful pedophiles out there, and we must welcome them in and give them unfettered access to these young boys."

38 posted on 05/21/2015 11:16:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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Maybe this will help with understanding. Many of the parents of children in the Boy Scouts, schools and other institutions are among administrators in the following and contributors to it (for example, campaign funds). Spoiled, pampered people are more susceptible to unnatural tendencies. Along the way, it's like a collective organism that has become infected by the voice$ (influence) piped into it.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."


America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html

Downton’s Class System — and Ours: We have a ruling class that despises the free market and does...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024119/posts


Turn off the televisions for a year or two, and you'll see that conservatism no longer exists in influences behind any side in politics. You'll learn that mind-wise, many people have been separated from physical realities in many ways.


39 posted on 05/21/2015 11:17:28 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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I have a son in Cub Scouts and don't agree with Gates.

I hope for your son's sake you're very closely involved with his Pack activities.

40 posted on 05/21/2015 11:18:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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Boy Scouts’ President Calls for End to Ban on Pedophilia.


42 posted on 05/21/2015 11:27:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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He promised he wasn’t going to pursue this. But, that’s what you get when you hire a spy.


44 posted on 05/21/2015 11:37:39 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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So the new, “gay-friendly” Scouting program will need to make wholesale changes to the Boy Scout Oath, which in its present form exemplifies patriotism, faith in God and moral straightness.

Very sad, but we all knew the darkside set out generations ago to make inroads against our children, and they’re now having monumental success. I can see the mission of the Boy and Girl Scouts slowly morphing into an extension of the progressive movement.. one in which their mission and practices will become more aligned with the communist “Young Pioneers.” Fealty to socialism will trump any loyalty to families, the nation or to God. Membership will no longer be optional... it will be mandatory.


45 posted on 05/21/2015 11:38:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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Here’s a lesson for every body. YOU DO NOT “COMPROMISE WITH EVIL, IN ANY FORM”. Oh the BSA can make any “RULE” they want, but what happens when no body wants to follow those “RULES”.


46 posted on 05/21/2015 11:38:46 AM PDT by gingerbread
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Soon to be coming to your neighborhood.

48 posted on 05/21/2015 11:43:00 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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Okay, let’s hear it from the BSA-defenders-at-all-cost FReepers. They told us this would never happen. Some said they would abandon it if it happened. Well, time to pay up.


49 posted on 05/21/2015 11:43:40 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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I have two sons several years apart. The first went through cub scouts and about half way through boy scouts before he decided he was over it. My youngest is cub scout age and I would not think of allowing him to join the organization now.


50 posted on 05/21/2015 11:46:34 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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"How did an unhealthy lifestyle attain such political dominance? I don't get it."

There was a woman who was also a very wise and educated Freeper who'd lived near San Francisco. Long ago, she informed some of us that most people are presented with a false impression about homosexuals.

She said that homosexual men are more like the Cruella De Vil character of "101 Dalmations" than the comical representations that we've seen in entertainment. For example, a heterosexual (straight) man might not know why he was fired from his job or who was behind it (Cruella De Vil).

Boys tend to learn to play with things. Girls tend to learn to play with people, good girls doing so with a set of unwritten rules of altruistic conduct. Some homosexual men and feminist women manipulate people with a psychotic lack of consideration for anyone.


51 posted on 05/21/2015 11:47:16 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Yeah, let’s drop a hungry bull snake into a chick incubator. Makes all the sense in the world ....


53 posted on 05/21/2015 11:49:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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