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French Muslims Say Veil Bans Give Cover to Bias
New York Times ^ | May 26, 2015 | By SUZANNE DALEY and ALISSA J. RUBIN

Posted on 05/27/2015 6:27:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

More than 10 years after France passed its first anti-veil law restricting young girls from wearing veils in public schools, the head coverings of observant Muslim women, from colorful silk scarves to black chadors, have become one of the most potent flash points in the nation’s tense relations with its vibrant and growing Muslim population.

Mainstream politicians continue to push for new measures to deny veiled women access to jobs, educational institutions and community life. They often say they are doing so for the benefit of public order or in the name of laïcité, the French term for the separation of church and state.

But critics say these efforts, rather than promoting a sense of secular inclusion, have encouraged rampant discrimination against Muslims in general and veiled women in particular. The result has been to fuel a sense among many Muslims that France — which celebrates Christian holidays in public schools — is engaging in a form of state racism.

The ban, some critics argue, also plays into the hands of Islamists, who are eager to drive a deeper wedge between Muslims and non-Muslims in the West.

So far, France has passed two laws, one in 2004 banning veils in public elementary and secondary schools, and another, enacted in 2011, banning full face veils, which are worn by only a tiny portion of the population.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim
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1 posted on 05/27/2015 6:27:44 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Veil Bans Give Cover to Bias?

such rich use of the language


2 posted on 05/27/2015 6:29:16 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“vibrant”? I think the Stone Age was more vibrant.


3 posted on 05/27/2015 6:30:42 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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4 posted on 05/27/2015 6:31:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If a Sunni muslim male put on a bomb vest and veiled completely from head to toe, walked in to a Shiite mosque and detonated the bomb killing lots of muzzies, would that incident make them reconsider their stupid veiling demands?

Didn’t think so.


5 posted on 05/27/2015 6:34:01 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t like French law? Go back to the Middle East.


6 posted on 05/27/2015 6:38:38 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Liberalism removes the significance of everything.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Huh.

Shouldn't that be "Veil[s] Bans Give Cover to Bias"

7 posted on 05/27/2015 6:39:36 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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8 posted on 05/27/2015 6:39:45 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: EagleUSA

Now, now, we have to be inclusive.


9 posted on 05/27/2015 6:40:15 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: JoeProBono

I think the third one from the left is hot!


10 posted on 05/27/2015 6:40:58 AM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: EagleUSA

dittobump.

The culture of the country you enter does NOT have to conform or make accommodations for your cultural preferences that are at variance with it.


11 posted on 05/27/2015 6:41:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
from colorful silk scarves to black chadors . . . vibrant and growing Muslim population.
12 posted on 05/27/2015 6:42:56 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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The ban, some critics argue, also plays into the hands of Islamists

They always say this crap. The truth is there is the 15% that are extremists, and the 80% that support their aims.

13 posted on 05/27/2015 6:45:34 AM PDT by montag813 (Pray for Israel)
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To: 3boysdad

Yeah, but check out the third one from the right! LOL


14 posted on 05/27/2015 6:50:22 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
How about a French law that would declare Islam to be a terroristic cult and an imminent danger to everyone else? Too bad it will never happen.
15 posted on 05/27/2015 6:56:42 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A woman named Rubin describes black sack clothed wraiths as...”vibrant”?

Yeah, if you think of Jewish slaughter as eclectic.

What is it, 5 months since Charlie Hebdo?

And some puerile idiot children have already forgotten and are back at it, condemning any Western attempt at saving their societies from the inbred troglodytes?


16 posted on 05/27/2015 6:57:10 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: JoeProBono; flaglady47; mickie; Maine Mariner; pax_et_bonum
Guy in white with camera...."Okay, now....everyone smile!"

Leni

17 posted on 05/27/2015 7:04:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Regulator
I wonder how she would feel about people choosing to walk around in crusader tabards, as an expression of their faith?


18 posted on 05/27/2015 7:16:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We need to ban that carp here also. It makes me sick to walk into the Kroger and see the Burka babe walking around. Its an affront the dignity of all women.


19 posted on 05/27/2015 7:49:51 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Oh that would be discriminatory.

Resistance is not allowed.


20 posted on 05/27/2015 8:49:56 AM PDT by Regulator
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