Posted on 05/27/2015 8:26:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
“America has experienced a trade deficit for as long as I can remember”
Free trade has dismantled America’s manufacturing base, has destroyed our economy. The wages of Americans have stagnated since the advent of free trade. Our deficits were as nothing compared to what happened with the advent of free trade. That can be verified quickly; we have the internet now. The trade bill was passed in SECRET. If it is that good, why, why, was it kept secret?
“I for one, welcome President Obama to the side of common sense solutions”
Why does common sense require secrecy? Wouldn’t the common sense lodged in the bill plainly override all objections? Is it common sense to repeat the same mistakes? What is Obama’s track record for being pro-American, in any sense? Who in their right mind would trust Obama, would grant him MORE power? Senator Sessions said that the bill has an enabling clause that allows Obama to change it at his whim. With free trade and Obama, we have ninety-two million Americans unemployed.
Your argument is based on no facts, simply conjecture.
What I don’t get is why would you want to take away Congress’ ability to debate such agreements (with a simple up or down vote...not hearing, or knowing, where each Rep stands on said proposal)? Also, why sign on to something that no one (except its authors ~ one of which I’ve read is a Soros group) has seen, or been allowed to read and/or release? This just isn’t making sense, to me.
Maybe my questions have been answered in previous posts/threads...and I’ve overlooked something? I’ve read the Op-Ed Cruz co-wrote with Lyin’ Paul Ryan and the statement Sen Cruz posted on his Senate site. Still not getting it.
I absolutely abhor the secrecy of this TPP BS but to state that the God-fearing Cruz is no better than the godless o-bama is beyond the pale! That is the single most brain-dead statement I have EVER read on Free Republic.
Total elimination of the tax imposed on manufacturing was one of the smart things Rick Santorum was saying in 2012.
We tax the ground the ore is buried in, we tax the ore that comes out of the ground, we tax the metal refined from the ore, we tax the screw made out of the metal, we tax the completed part and that’s all before it gets anywhere near a retailer.
The responses from the author to all the usual questions and comments posted following the text of the article are outstanding. It’s apparent the author is well informed on the text of the legislation and I recommend reading all the responses.
Thanks. I hadn’t seen/read where the Senators/staff had been able to read/review. It’s probably in one of your links ;-)
I still don’t get the up or down vote vs debate. What am I missing? TIA.
You didn’t look up our history of trade deficits? Not conjecture. You haven’t looked up the number of manufacturing jobs lost under free trade? Not conjecture. You haven’t noticed the unemployment rate? Not conjecture. Stale wage growth, actual decline. Not conjecture. Bill kept classified by the Obama administration. Not conjecture. You believe Obama can be trusted to do what is right for America?
Is that conjecture for you?
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[ Total elimination of the tax imposed on manufacturing was one of the smart things Rick Santorum was saying in 2012.
We tax the ground the ore is buried in, we tax the ore that comes out of the ground, we tax the metal refined from the ore, we tax the screw made out of the metal, we tax the completed part and thats all before it gets anywhere near a retailer. ]
Yup, and if it comes from another country we don’t want to tax that at all, even if they pollute like hell, pay their workers practically nothing, and the people themselves belong to their kleptocratic state....
We could remove just 1/2 or even 1/4 of the regulations and taxes we place on domestic production and virtually see a boom overnight on the domestic economy because that would remove the margins and incentive to have said item produced by a totalitarian slave state like china.
Somehow, I don’t think it’s Ted.
[ Trying to state that the Trade Treaties, and any resultant deficits are the sole cause of unemployment is a very weak argument. It also ignores jobs created by these treaties, and there have been many jobs created that would not have happened otherwise. ]
Unless this trade agreement has in it a mechanism to remove domestic restriction of taxes and regulation on items that we currently buy from places like china, I WILL NOT BITE.
But hey unless you can post the full text here, you arguments are just violin music in a windstorm of discontent with congress.
But, he echoes the sentiment of the WSJ and others...including Ted Cruz himself. Freepers just won’t accept what was written.
As such, cRUZ has lost my vote. He has lost my money. I will no longer support him. I guess I’ll throw my vote to a less Conservative, pandering, RINO type. /sarc
Congress is voting themselves into obsolescence by pre-emptivly acquiescing 2/3rds majority treaty votes with simple majority votes to let the executive branch do what they want.
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