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Why Ted Cruz is Right on TPA
Reclaim DC ^ | May 22, 2015 | David Serenda

Posted on 05/27/2015 8:26:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: Timber Rattler
There is no justification, period, for enabling the Obama Regime on anything.

This doesn't enable Obama to do anything he couldn't do before. Please stop repeating lies.
61 posted on 05/27/2015 9:35:30 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: boycott
How would this guy know? The trade bill is SECRET.

If it,was such a good deal for us, there would be no need for it to be secret.



There is not SECRET trade deal BECAUSE of TPA. Try educating yourself on this issue and stop being a clueless sap for the AFL-CIO. You are proudly repeating lies right now.
62 posted on 05/27/2015 9:36:10 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I want to know what specific deficiency this bill is supposed to correct.


63 posted on 05/27/2015 9:37:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: astroaddict

Welcome to FR


64 posted on 05/27/2015 9:37:48 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jane Long
I don't know either. The only thing I can think of is that Cruz has made some kind of deal with his donors to back McConnell and Obama on this thing in exchange for their continuing financial support for his campaign.

I asked him that question on his Facebook page, and a couple of his staff members responded (sadly) with the usual GOP-E talking points about how TPA would give Congress the "authority" to accept or reject anything Obama negotiates, which we all know is bunk.

Needless to say, I was deeply disappointed by Cruz and his social media handlers on this one.

65 posted on 05/27/2015 9:37:50 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: astroaddict

Tell me the details now, then.


66 posted on 05/27/2015 9:41:30 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: astroaddict

Tell me the details now, then.


67 posted on 05/27/2015 9:41:30 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Timber Rattler; Jane Long
I asked him that question on his Facebook page, and a couple of his staff members responded (sadly) with the usual GOP-E talking points about how TPA would give Congress the "authority" to accept or reject anything Obama negotiates, which we all know is bunk.

If the Senate is supposed to vote on any trade treaty negotiated by the President, how is this bunk?
68 posted on 05/27/2015 9:44:18 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: G Larry

From your posted link...

...Wednesday, Sessions took on arguments for the trade deal with a series of what he office says are “myths” versus “truths” about the trade deal under consideration in Congress.

...Myth: Trade agreements implemented under fast-track will not supersede existing U.S. law.

Truth: Every trade agreement negotiated by the President and foreign governments is accompanied by implementing legislation which necessarily supersedes existing law. Proponents of fast-track are relying on semantics: the trade agreement itself will not supersede existing law, but the “fast-tracked” legislation implementing the trade agreement will. What’s more, the Trans-Pacific Partnership—which would be fast-tracked by TPA—will give jurisdiction to international tribunals to settle disputes between parties to the agreement.


Let that last sentence sink in a bit.

Thank God for Sen Sessions....he does a lot of “myth-busting” about this trade agreement, in that piece. Everyone should read the linked article.


69 posted on 05/27/2015 9:44:55 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: astroaddict

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/07/only-two-republicans-admit-they-actually-read-secret-obama-trade-deal-both-unsupportive/


70 posted on 05/27/2015 9:45:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: astroaddict
There is not SECRET trade deal BECAUSE of TPA. Try educating yourself on this issue and stop being a clueless sap for the AFL-CIO. You are proudly repeating lies right now.

So when can we see it?


71 posted on 05/27/2015 9:47:43 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels." --Tom Waits)
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To: SoConPubbie
Instead of having anyone and everyone telling us how good this is, make it public.

It is the Secrecy.

Given Obama’s track record, I have issues with anyone voting for this legislation clouded in secrecy and saying ‘trust me.’

God only knows the deals made to ensure passage.

72 posted on 05/27/2015 9:47:56 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Timber Rattler; SoConPubbie; G Larry

From the above Breitbart link referenced in post #51

....Myth: Congress will have more control over the trade process under fast-track.

Truth: If Congress gives the Executive six-year fast-track authority, the Senate will cede its ability to amend any future legislation implementing any yet-unseen global trade and regulatory pact; cede its ability to control debate over that pact; and cede its ability to subject that pact to the 67-vote threshold required for treaties, as well as the 60-vote threshold required for important legislation. Proponents of fast-track suggest the negotiating objectives somehow bind the Administration; this is false. The negotiations on the Trans-Pacific Partnership are nearly complete and have been ongoing for years, long before any negotiating objectives will have been suggested. Moreover, the negotiating objectives are vague and lack any meaningful enforcement mechanisms—particularly enforcement from Senators and Representatives not on the revenue committees. Congress will be giving up the only leverage it has: the ability to amend legislation or to refuse to cut-off debate. No fast-tracked deal has ever been defeated, regardless of whether fast-track “objectives” have been ignored, overlooked, or violated by the Executive.

Myth: Congress is ceding no institutional powers under fast-track.

Truth: By eliminating its own powers of review and amendment, Congress would dramatically shift the carefully calibrated balance of power between Congress and the President. Fast-track would ensure that the President has complete discretion over the drafting of international agreements Congress has never even seen.


73 posted on 05/27/2015 9:48:20 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: astroaddict

I’m still waiting...so far all I hear are crickets.


74 posted on 05/27/2015 9:52:51 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: VTenigma; Jane Long

Supreme Court has no problem with majority in both houses on Free Trade Agreements and have said as much that they don’t fall under the Treaties Clause.


75 posted on 05/27/2015 9:55:56 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: Gaffer

The deal has not been negotiated yet, when it has, the details will be out long before both houses have to vote. I’m not sure what’s complicated about this.

TPA and TPP are two different things.


76 posted on 05/27/2015 9:55:56 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: Gaffer

You are repeating something TWENTY DAYS OLD. The TPA that Cruz voted for erases the secrecy. Stop. Listen. You’ll learn something.


77 posted on 05/27/2015 9:55:56 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yea, we’ve only tripled our exports (inflation adjusted) to Canada and Mexico since it was passed.

That’s all.


78 posted on 05/27/2015 9:56:03 AM PDT by astroaddict
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To: astroaddict

Cruz offered an amendment IIRC. Even if adopted what in the still secret (viewed by appointment only) bill will be forestalled?

Who’s spreading disinformation here?

http://truthinmedia.com/ted-cruzs-tpa-amendment-wont-stop-obamatrades-backdoor-amnesty/


79 posted on 05/27/2015 9:58:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: astroaddict
The TPA that Cruz voted for erases the secrecy.

Oh? Can you give us a link to the full contents of the legislation, then, please?

80 posted on 05/27/2015 10:00:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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