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"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
 
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan
 
"A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." - Thomas Paine 1792
 
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
 
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
 

1 posted on 05/27/2015 8:26:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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2 posted on 05/27/2015 8:27:26 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Someone’s gotta be lying.


3 posted on 05/27/2015 8:29:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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So, according to the writer, if you don’t support this bill you’re an isolationist.

Nuts.


4 posted on 05/27/2015 8:32:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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Call me ignorant, i don’t care, call me a protectionist, I don’t care.

I believe in free trade... ONLY Between countries that have the following THREE things in common: Economic Development Level, Social/cultural Development level, and Personal Freedom/liberty level.

We CAN trade Freely with countries like Canada. the UK, Japan, South Korea, and Israel.

We CANNOT trade freely with countries like China, India, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.


5 posted on 05/27/2015 8:33:21 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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Nope. He is 100% wrong.


7 posted on 05/27/2015 8:36:44 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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By Congress authorizing this legislation they are able to have a part in the terms of the negotiations that take place with foreign governments. In addition to controlling the outline of any trade deal, they are able to force the President to share with them the details of any trade deals as he is negotiating. There are many opportunities for Congress to read and be involved in these negotiations if they really had a desire. There is also a requirement for public summaries to be released throughout the process of the negotiations. Once the trade agreement is completed it must be made available to the public before Congress is able to vote on it.

While I think Congressional oversight is a good thing, I would like to see the exemption removed for insider trading. Possessing knowledge of how a trade deal is going to affect individual companies before that information is made public will have the potential to be lucrative.

10 posted on 05/27/2015 8:39:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Our trade problems are local, not foreign.

If we want to bring jobs to America we need to deal with the tax and regulatory problems.


12 posted on 05/27/2015 8:43:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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What exactly is TPA or fast track?


How would this guy know? The trade bill is SECRET.

If it,was such a good deal for us, there would be no need for it to be secret.


15 posted on 05/27/2015 8:47:15 AM PDT by boycott
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The responses from the author to all the usual questions and comments posted following the text of the article are outstanding. It’s apparent the author is well informed on the text of the legislation and I recommend reading all the responses.


28 posted on 05/27/2015 9:02:51 AM PDT by Unmarked Package (Cruz to Victory 2016)
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("The first thing we should keep in mind when talking about TPA is that while its basic function is beneficial in facilitating the passage of trade agreements, the bill is 113 pages long because it’s full of caveats and reservations.")

(read the bill for yourself)

32 posted on 05/27/2015 9:07:17 AM PDT by yoe
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I’m for Ted....but....
Sen. Sessions Myth Busts TPA

>http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/20/sen-sessions-myth-busts-obama-trade-effort/<

Myth: Trade agreements implemented under fast-track will not supersede existing U.S. law.


51 posted on 05/27/2015 9:27:05 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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Instead of having anyone and everyone telling us how good this is, make it public.

It is the Secrecy.

Given Obama’s track record, I have issues with anyone voting for this legislation clouded in secrecy and saying ‘trust me.’

God only knows the deals made to ensure passage.

72 posted on 05/27/2015 9:47:56 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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What a load if pure crap your pathetic link is.
Your boy Cruz is a traitor and a billionaire bagboy

read the truth about this Trojan Horse and the Traitor Cruz and the rest of the senate know it.

Its an secret Treaty that let's Soros puppets unlimited power to ram thru never ending mass slave labor and to ship white collar jobs overseas.

http://netrightdaily.com/2015/04/14-things-you-have-to-know-about-fast-track/

The fact Cruz had the nerve to call this a free trade bills tells us he can lie just like Mitch.
TPP was cooked up by Soros to circumvent US laws and to make the US a mass immigrant hell like England thru fast track open ended treaties alowing mass overseas piling into our shores . Soros wrote a globalization book about it ! The utter nonsense he spit out out amending the bill was odd since fast track made amendments illegal .
So why did Cruz put out that bold faced lie . Only Gov Jindal is against the utter dangerous TPP.

101 posted on 05/27/2015 11:02:21 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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A field of straw man arguments.

There may be good reasons to support the legislation, but the article contains no examples.

117 posted on 05/27/2015 11:32:17 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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So politicians like Hillary can continue to sell access and rake in the corporate and foreign cash


125 posted on 05/27/2015 11:44:10 AM PDT by GeronL (free short story: http://flscifi.blogspot.com/2015/05/free-short-story-proper-care-feeding-of.html)
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We’re in the spin phase of the political cycle now.

A few quick points:

-Ted Cruz was aware of significant and vociferous opposition from the conservative base on this bill. Yet he chose to both vote for it and flack for it. With Paul Ryan no less.

-Like most bills, the devil is in the details. We can’t see the details of the TPP. But we do know some of the details of the TPA and several of those act our detriment. Supporters of TPA are quick to note that a majority of Congress must vote on any trade agreement. So what? What is so important about these trade bills that they be excluded from the same scrutiny as any other bill? Now I realize that in the long run caesar gets whatever caesar wants. But why should we make it any easier?

-From a conservative perspective, how does it make sense to give this or any other president any more power than he currently has? conservatism and giving the president more power are not ideas that mesh.

In sum, this is another NAFTA. If you’re a globalist and think NAFTA was a great thing, you’ll love this. If you’re in the middle or working class, you’re about to get screwed.


133 posted on 05/27/2015 12:38:08 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (The ballot is a suggestion box for fools and slaves.)
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What has Ted Cruz said about Ted Cruz’s opinion of the TPA? I would like to think that Ted Cruz has a good reason to support the TPA.

However, the article doesn’t explain this. The author uses Cruz’s name to promote the author’s opinion of the legislation. It is a bit underhanded of the author to do this.


138 posted on 05/27/2015 12:50:07 PM PDT by kidd
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bkmk


150 posted on 05/27/2015 2:33:03 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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The entire argument about transparency and amendments is a smoke screen. The primary purpose of TPA is to remove the Senate supermajority requirement, without this the bill will not pass. Once 0 is given fast track the bill cannot be amended anyway. I suspect there will be several Senators who will shift to no votes, to save face, on an unpopular TPP (once we finally see what’s in it) knowing that they have already ensured passage through their support of TPA. I sincerely hope Cruz is not one of them as this type of political deception is not tolerable (imo).

By the way I do not support free trade agreements for the following reasons. Free trade has a negative effect on our trade deficit. Following passage of NAFTA in 1994 our trade deficit with Mexico and Canada exploded as shown by the below statistics.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c1220.html

While I cannot PROVE that free trade effects US jobs (this is still open to debate depending on what set of statistics you use) it is highly logical that the effect is negative. Why would manufacturers choose to maintain operations in countries with higher costs due to wages and regulation when there is no import penalty? (I agree that our government over-regulates although that is separate to this debate) This view is supported by the lack of nominal wage growth and shift in jobs from manufacturing to lower paying service jobs.

Ultimately free trade is a gift to the corporations (who have lobbied for and who’s representatives are currently involved in the negotiations) at the expense of people who are simply trying to find a decent job to support their family. If you are in this category it is not in your best interest. If however your standard of living is not attributed to earned income but rather dividends or investments it would make sense to support it.

152 posted on 05/27/2015 3:20:09 PM PDT by Roland (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Has Cruz read the TPA? or is he basing his support on what he thinks the TPA is???


155 posted on 05/27/2015 4:20:20 PM PDT by RginTN
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