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It's taken him ONLY 12 years to finally conclude that Democracy is a foreign, alien entity to those who've been bent on killing each other ever since Muhammad dropped out of Satan's sphincter 1300 years ago?

Yeah! Democracy! give me a "D" and "E" "M""O" "C" "R" "A" "C" "Y"! It the cure for barbarism, internecine destruction, a 2% literacy rate among a nation of 225 million, who have a GNP less than Holland if you remove the petroleum. And these are not my words. This is study that has come out of the UN for the passed for four years on the state of the Arab World.

Well Rummie, you certainly are a dummy. The emancipating power of democracy. It really comes across as nothing but hogwash. Democracy so powerful, that it can even transcend, the most backward, primitive, delusional people. And I'm not even talking about Islam. I mean, Bush and Wolfowitz and Krystal, and all those people with manic fantasies of the world turning into Disneyland.

We were warned. We were told. Beneath the fiery hot cauldron of the egregious enmity of the many groups within Iraq under Hussein. It may be the baddest of the bad but he's keeping these savages under control, and for all the shyte that Hussein was, he kept a pretty tight ship.

But no, Democracy, divinely inspired is going to turn the savage goat-butting beast into voting gentleman playing croquet.

But now, we get to see the laws of unintended consequences. An Iran nearly nuclear, the Middle East in turmoil, a godforsaken misbegotten group spawned under the very worst conditions that mankind has ever shown capable of. All because Bush needed some Crusade-type cause to invade Iraq. He actually did compare the current state of Axis of Evil as the "Crusades Redux" but he was quickly shut up.

So democracy, it ain't quite fighting for divine things like God, but it's the closest thing we've got these days.

I remember seeing the soldiers, no legs, body incinerated with third degree burns, all for what? Why the big "D" of course. Rumsfeld is just as cynical as the rest.

I read that in some lefty rag douchepaper that Rummmy is coming out now at this time and place to kind of make the Republicans seem more realistic and pragmatic notwithstanding the Iraq invasion that made things only 10,000 worse. The story that reminds me most of the war, the way it went, Some Neo-con, probably Wolfowitz, the most wide-eyed optimistic dreamer of the lot, talking about iraqi relations with Israel , which of course was a far gone conclusion right before 'Shock and Awe'. He responded with incredulity. What do you mean?If the US wants Iraq to have relations with Israel then that;s that.

1 posted on 06/10/2015 5:09:51 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

You’re being absurd. You read something today, and assume that the thought hadn’t occurred to Rumsfeld earlier? You miss the point. How arrogant and logically bankrupt on your part.


2 posted on 06/10/2015 5:13:27 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: lbryce

The most stable counties in the mideast (aside from Israel) all have dictators. In the case of Egypt and Jordan there is even a certain semblance of religious freedom. Even in Syria the minority groups generally back Assad because he didn’t single them out.


3 posted on 06/10/2015 5:15:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: lbryce

Rumsfeld continues to remind me of another Defense Secretary, Robert McNamara. Both Ivy league know it alls, both know more than just about anyone else, both initiated a stupid strategy (Mac with bombing halts, Rumsfeld with not having a government in place after driving Saddam out of power), and both after they left office and found that the public did not favor the war and it did not turn out well, decide to turn on the policy they crafted, demean the leaders they served it to, and do all they can to get accepted once more at the Georgetown cocktail parties. I remember McNamara, after he wrote his odious, lying book about Vietnam, claiming “I was against it”!! He was “against it”?? He was the FATHER OF IT!


8 posted on 06/10/2015 5:26:52 AM PDT by laconic
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To: lbryce

Bush Sr. just about begged W not to play these games in Iraq, from what I understand.

Save Reagan, there was no better man on the international scene than GHWB. Bush and Baker were a formidable pair, and ‘ROP George’ apparently never learned that sometimes father knows best.

W and Condi were the misguided ideologues.


12 posted on 06/10/2015 5:31:38 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: lbryce

Anything about winning a war in this tripe?


14 posted on 06/10/2015 5:40:55 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: lbryce

Nation building fails again


21 posted on 06/10/2015 5:56:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: lbryce

Islam is not compatible with democracy or a republican form of government.

Should have created three separate states out of Iraq; one each for the KUrds, Shiites, and the Sunnis, with some imposition for the devision of the oil resources.


25 posted on 06/10/2015 6:26:47 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: lbryce

The responsibility of the winning power in a war is to leave a country stable in departing. It is even outlined in the Geneva Convention on warfare.

In most cases that is viewed by the whole world as leaving a people with some form of self-determination. Leftists love democracy as do islamists. It promotes one person, one vote, one time — and then the take over of the socialist or islamist government. It is easy to set up a parliamentary democracy. It is damn near impossible to design a representative republic of laws for another nation without that tradition.

We feel for the leftist democratic eye-wash.


35 posted on 06/10/2015 6:57:28 AM PDT by KC Burke (Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam)
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You are a bit wound up. You might consider not drinking whatever it was or taking whatever pill you had.


37 posted on 06/10/2015 6:59:58 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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