[cripplecreek]

Manipulation

The saddest part of this whole episode is how easily conservatives are manipulated and led like sheep. Just look at who populates these threads. Among the regular Freeps are the RINO troll army. They consist if the n00bs who "used to support Cruz" and the primary season Freeps who may have been here for years but only show up for primary season to raise "concerns" about conservatives.

It is interesting how quickly this infighting starts when the Romney people start joining the campaigns. Honestly, if conservatives are dumb enough to continue falling for this crap election after election, we really do deserve a Bush/Clinton race.

As far as the candidates/potential candidates are concerned, I haven't looked at them all but so far Perry, Walker and Jindal have all supported TPP or equivelent treaties.

Amid Secrecy, Rick Perry Retracts Obamatrade Support: ‘I Would Rather Barack Obama Not Be Negotiating for Me’

In May a spokesman for Perry told Breitbart News that he supports the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)—one of three largely secretive trade deals that would be fast-tracked by Trade Promotion Authority (TPA). But he’s changed his position.

TPP Proponents Close to Clinton Remain Optimistic About Her Support

Scott Walker had this to say.

Well, I talked about TTIP the other day in Germany in Hanover at the industrial fair there, and I think fair and open trade is a good thing on either side of the continent for the United States, whether it’s on the Atlantic or the Pacific. Obvious the details need to be worked out and there’s a lot of details including some specific to my state that need to be worked out. But I think in the end, having a deal that’s fair and offers fair and open trade would be a good thing for the United States and for our trading partners.

Bobby Jindal talks economic development, TPP with Taiwanese President Ma Ying-Jeou

While the negotiations were discussed, Plotkin said Jindal will take a position on the agreement when final terms are agreed to: "We are optimistic and hopeful about expanded trade with this part of the world. So we are hopeful about the TPP.

For those who are OK with trashing Cruz to protect your candidate, Just remember, those Romney people on the campaign WILL eat your candidate before they're done and despite any fantasies to the contrary, you won't be able to stop it.

And finally, Ted Cruz in his own words. (Starting at 52 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sznh5AjageI&feature=youtu.be

[Gaffer]

From everything I can gather about TPA and TPP, I don’t like them one damned bit. I’m disappointed that Cruz supports it (or is reported to support it), but given all the other candidates, I’ll still vote for him if he’s on the ballot when it rolls around to my state’s primary.

I do know this. The likely big contender will be Jeb Bush, probably with Walker and Cruz in tow. Bush will get there because of money, GOP establishment backing and because Democrats and media WANT him to be the opposing candidate.

I also know exactly what JEB is and I’d do almost anything to help keep him from getting the nomination. To that end, I’m going to put aside my questions on Cruz (and Walker if I have to) about TPA and TPP and focus on stopping Jeb.

[ncalburt]

Hey Cruz Bot http://americaswatchtower.com/2015/05/01/bobby-jindal-opposes-giving-barack-obama-fast-track-authority-on-the-tpp/

Jindal is against it because Obama would have Unlimited power ! Jindal states Obama is Not to Be Trusted Cruz is toast.

[knarf]

ping to read later

[Lakeshark]

Quoting people on why they think free trade with other countries is a good thing is not the same as saying we should vote for this agreement AS IT EXISTS.

I really like Cruz, still think he's our best shot, but his vote on this agreement that we can't see appears to be unsupportable. Lots of awful details have leaked out, Senator Sessions being the primary leader against this thing.

Quoting other candidates liking free trade and claiming this is their position on TPP isn't going to help. Supporting Ted's position just because he's Ted doesn't seem particularly smart either.

[Dr. Sivana]

Thank you for your post. I disagree with Cruz on this and H1Bs, but I look at the list of qualifications, skills and positions, and he’s my number 1.

I do reserve the right to not support anyone who is sanguine about abortion (Rand “Social Issues Truce” Paul), but I ma not interested in going scorched earth against anyone who is not John Ellis Bush.

[TADSLOS]

Thanks for the sanity post, Cripplecreek.

[TNMOUTH]

GREAT reply, thank you.

Trying to battle the agendas and ignorance on this page is staggering.

You can post what you want about Cruz and the truth about TPA, but those with an agenda will still not buy it.

Cruz is winning. It scares them.

Keep up the fight!

[American Constitutionalist]

All of them will have egg on their faces in the not to distant future.

[caww]

...”The saddest part of this whole episode is how easily conservatives are manipulated and led like sheep...... Just look at who populates these threads...... Among the regular Freeps are the RINO troll army...... They consist of the n00bs who “used to support Cruz” and the primary season Freeps who may have been here for years but only show up for primary season to raise “concerns” about conservatives.”/\...

It’s certainly obvious.