Posted on 06/11/2015 9:24:22 PM PDT by z taxman
If anything, this whole mess makes me like Cruz more, not less. And here’s why:
I might not like this agreement, but the fact that Cruz voted for something he believed in instead of a party line vote means that he’s not pandering to us, and that when he says something, he believes it. I want someone who will lead, not someone who will only do something if the polls say so.
Second, from the little I saw of this bill, I really don’t see anything unconstitutional about it. Perhaps I’ll need to sing a Mea Culpa afterwards if someone points things out to me, but bad legislation doesn’t equal tyranny.
It’s also amazing how many names I’m seeing posting lately that I haven’t seen since... 2012. Hmmmm. Makes me wonder.
“Sure,” Cruz responded. “There is a lot of confusion and, unfortunately, a lot of misinformation you can get on the Internet that people are confused, so let’s explain what each of those three are.”
Hey Ted I think we have all figured it out and you are just confused because we are opposed to your position on TPA and are a little pizzed about it.
I am personally of the opinion that the gentleman in question is a major troll and probably in the pay of either Jeb or Hillary’s campaign.
That’s usually what a one-track posting record like his is.
“Voting third party, writing someone in...these are the same as staying home. If you weren’t encouraging people to vote for Romney in the general, you were helping Obama.”
Are you by chance the white girl in Spokane that is black because she says she is? Because you just used the d=same logic.
Your unicorn logic is just that. Have a Skittle.
Most of Cruz’s detractors hate him for that reason. They arent mad at him for the bill. They are mad because his ‘purist’ idea of sticking to his guns is the polar opposite of their asinine “Lesser evil” meme. If he sticks to his guns and retains support, their job convincing the world that capitulation is the path to success gets that much harder.
Remember: These are people that voted Romney and over 2 years later, still make excuses about it, oblivious to the fact that the RINOs they demanded are the very people LITERALLY getting thumbs up from Barry on this fiasco.
So I take it that, yes, you were encouraging people to vote third party or write someone in. And this is how you now attempt to prop up the notion that you were “encouraging people to be more conservative” (or however it was you put it). Right?
If so, please pardon me while I chuckle just a lil bit...
It’s pathetic that you pretend to be a conservative on a conservative site.
It’s even more pathetic that FR has become a nexus for some of the stupidest people on the internet...people that believe conservatism means voting for a Republican gay supporting abortionist. I cannot imagine how we got to the point that mocking people for maintaining the crazy notion that conservatives should not support liberals.
It’s because we live in an imperfect world, Norm, where lesser of two evils type choices are fairly common. You want to pretend that the fix is as easy as just voting in some kind of pure way but it’s not. We have much more work to do than that, and until that work is done we’re going to face choices that are unpleasant. We are not entitled to getting to vote our conscience. We have to earn it.
And this is where I see a dazzling irony in the whole liberal/conservative thing. Liberals are totally into entitlement as a governing principle but their practical politics is totally entitlement free. They are bare-knuckles, tenacious, patient fighters who take nothing for granted. They are willing to slog through the impure quagmire for as long as it takes to emerge with their ideas on top.
Conservatives, on the other hand, are all about ruggedness and self-sufficiency as a governing principle — but in the political realm they are too often a bunch of brittle, whiney, pathetic losers who throw in the towel and stamp their feet when they don’t get their way right off the bat. It’s like we think we’re entitled somehow, just because our ideas are right. Hey, I got news for us: you have to endure and be flexible and persistent in this mean old world of ours. Ain’t nothin just given.
Falling on deaf ears. I choose conservatism, you do not. Tell whatever you have to blather about to a fellow liberal.
Wrong. I choose conservatism pursued realistically and with tenacity and persistence — and with optimism, which is not the same thing as perfectionism. You have illusions of political entitlement that are simply not part of the world we actually live in.
Save the typing. I’m not listening. You are a liberal supporting liberals. Your vote shoes it.
Okay, thanks. I’m off to watch cat videos.
Everybody’s dead to me, except for that skilled charlatan - Donald Trump!
What a silly straw man. I'm sure everyone here would vote for Cruz if he is the nominee. But, there are other conservative candidates in the race and when Cruz helps bailout Obama on secretive deal that gives him more power, he isn't exempt from scrutiny.
Well you’d be pretty wrong because dozens of Freepers already said in capital letters that “TAD CRUZ JUST LOST MY VOTE!
Now either they are liars, which is possible since they show little moral courage, or Ted Cruz in fact lost their vote. Which shows my statement to be true. Pick one.
So what is it? Are they liars or not?
Turn the page Ted. By circling back and trying to explain your vote endlessly you’re admitting you screwed up, and you’re making things worse for your campaign.
The 50 repubs in the house who voted against Obama-T, need to form a THIRD PARTY.
The GOP has proven AGAIN, that they want to:
DESTROY... ENTRY LEVEL JOBS IN AMERICA ....with millions of illegals
DESTROY... HI-TECH JOBS IN AMERICA.........with hundreds of thousands of H1B visas
DESTROY ...MIDDLE CLASS JOBS...............WITH ANOTHER MOTHER OF ALL NAFTAs!
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