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To: z taxman

I’ve read that obummer can do this and obummer can do that with the new agreement.
he’s doing what he wants already anyway.
I’ve done a lot of reading and I think the bill is not nearly as damning as some say it is, with all due respect.
why would Cruz suddenly reverse course on all he believes in to vote for this bill? it doesn’t make sense. he still has my vote.


3 posted on 06/11/2015 9:28:27 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: dp0622

Lemmings hopping off a cliff. You’ve been sold a false savior my friend.


5 posted on 06/11/2015 9:30:14 PM PDT by z taxman
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To: dp0622

“why would Cruz suddenly reverse course on all he believes in to vote for this bill?”

Only reason I can come up with is closed-door meetings and secret this and don’t tell them that - legislating in the dark rather than in public, is mighty heady, powerful stuff. That’s why the closer anyone gets to Washington, the more compromised they become. Just the thought of all that power, of becoming a “royal”, of walking the halls of unaccountability - it changes everyone. You’re in or you’re out. Screw the unwashed masses - they’re just grist for the mill anyhow. Cruz sees his cut in it all if it passes, and what he can do later.

Like all of them. I don’t trust any of them. Rationalizing it to explain what’s happening won’t fix the problem, which is throwing America under the bus of the global dictatorship. Sigh. I liked Cruz.


62 posted on 06/11/2015 9:58:31 PM PDT by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: dp0622
I’ve done a lot of reading and I think the bill is not nearly as damning as some say it is, with all due respect.

That's true.

What Cruz voted for was to let Obama negotiate the TPP, stipulating that the final result will be aired out for 60 days and then voted up or down by Congress (as opposed to being subject to endless amendments, which, in turn, would need to be approved by the other international signatories — a recipe for failure).

Note that law isn't made until and unless Congress votes to approve the final TPP. Enabling legislation may also be required — it's an agreement, not a treaty.

So, by voting for TPA, aka Fast Track, Cruz is taking a flyer that Obama will produce a useful trade agreement.

If he does, then the Republican Congress will approve it. If not, if Zero proves unable to resist the temptation to lard it up with Progressive nonsense, then Congress will can it, and we can wait until 2017 to negotiate a real trade agreement.

Cruz explains the process to Hugh Hewitt.

76 posted on 06/11/2015 10:05:54 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: dp0622

Read post 79.


93 posted on 06/11/2015 10:11:50 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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